• miskOP
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    10 months ago

    Right now all of the proposed questions are so bonkers that many people will get parliamentary elections ballot and ignore referendum. EU accession referendum is the only referendum ever that met quorum in Poland so putting that question on a ballot could potentially mobilize people.

    PiS won’t do it because their long term plan is to sow enough distrust to EU that they would have to “begrudgingly” leave the EU in a couple of years. They don’t need a referendum for that either - previous government (led by PO) passed a law so that only a parliamentary majority is required for that IIRC.

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      10 months ago

      I know, i want them to leave. I want the polish citizens to finally get rid of piss and us to finally be able to kick out Hungary.

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        10 months ago

        Yeah, 50% quorum required.

        Parliamentary elections turnout will easily exceed 50% so it’ll be a huge cluster fuck to boycott referendum because people will likely be handed both ballots by default. It’s illegal to take ballot away or destroy it. Invalid votes are counted toward quorum. So far it looks like we’ll have to specifically refuse and have this on the record.

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          10 months ago

          That sounds massively illegal. I hope you have a good supreme court. But even then, people could still vote against the proposed referendum

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            10 months ago

            That sounds massively illegal.

            Holding elections and referendum together is kinda illegal but who’s going to stop them.

            I hope you have a good supreme court.

            EU is suing us because supreme court doesn’t meet criteria for being independent and impartial. Constitutional court is even worse.

            But even then, people could still vote against the proposed referendum

            The questions are “have you stopped beating your wife yet?” themed and any participation legitimizes this circus unfortunately.