• GivingEuropeASpook
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    11 months ago

    I’m operating on the basis that most people, do in fact, love their family members and want them to live happy, fruitful lives. If someone doesn’t want that for their loved ones then what I’m saying wouldn’t apply. Someone who is “normal” but not radicalized, in the sense that they may be reflective of society’s inherent prejudices and have views shaped by them, but are repulsed by overt displays of racism/sexism, would probably be horrified.

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      11 months ago

      Love for them is synonym of keeping the baby even after rape. The baby is a gift of god even after a rape.

      It’s disgusting but people really think like that after being brainwashed by the GOP and religion.

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        11 months ago

        Not the people I’m talking about. Far more people hold partially formed, vague opinions about these things than believe in the Christian rights view entirely.

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      11 months ago

      I think you would be sadly disappointed by the number of ‘normal’ parents in the world.

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        11 months ago

        I disagree. The internet distorts people’s perceptions. “Normal” people support reproductive rights, no-fault divorce, and other common targets of the religious right because that’s what’s in line with how they actually and practically live their lives. Most people are mortified to hear about a 13-year-old being forced to give birth, that’s why the people who oppose abortion have all sorts of excuses (or outright claim the stories are fake) in these scenarios because they know what they’re defending is shocking to normal, well-adjusted people.

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            Unfortunately with the way elections are set up, it doesn’t properly show the will of the people. A winner takes all for congressional seats I’d say generally push only the extremes to the forefront.

            There should be ranked choice voting to allow a better chance for third parties and to have a better allocation of representatives of what the people actually think and want.

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            11 months ago

            Then you should be encouraged, every time it’s been on the ballot, abortion has been protected or expanded since roe was struck down. Just last week, Ohio voted down an amendment meant to make it harder for a pro-choice amendment legalizing abortion this November, which is also expected to pass. Politicians are acting in spite of voters.

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                11 months ago

                I sort of believe that at any given moment, most countries host between 15-30% of its population that could be considered fascist. This isn’t a problem with a civically engaged populace that can easily take part in elections, which is precisely why the right wing wants to control the “quality of voter” and make it into a privilege, not a right.

                The US in particular has structural problems that have, since it’s inception, unfairly benefited the most reactionary segments of the US population, more so than even other liberal democracies.