I agree that its realitive, but tbh it kinda seems like you took “Left is inherently good, right is inherently bad” and then defined around it. Communism (or more specifically, Stalin) is slavery to the state, and thats definitely a heirarchy and definitely left wing.
Sooooo you’re both right. According to MLs, there must be a “transitional socialist state” to guide society to communism, which is supposed to be a stateless society with a gift economy instead of market economy.
Of course in practice they never get past the transitional phase. Anarchists often criticize these countries as being “state capitalist”, in the sense that the state takes the place of the previous capitalist class, and continues the business of exploitation as usual.
Many ancient (pre-roman) societies could be described as communist (primitive communism). Some communes are also obviously pretty close (but must survive within capitalist societies, so it complicates things).
I agree that its realitive, but tbh it kinda seems like you took “Left is inherently good, right is inherently bad” and then defined around it. Communism (or more specifically, Stalin) is slavery to the state, and thats definitely a heirarchy and definitely left wing.
I mentioned that Marxist-Leninists (‘Communists’ in common parlance) are ideologically left, even though in practice their system is dogshit.
There is no state in communism.
Except every time we tried communism, there was a state. And don’t “Not trye communism” me, its communism as practiced.
Sooooo you’re both right. According to MLs, there must be a “transitional socialist state” to guide society to communism, which is supposed to be a stateless society with a gift economy instead of market economy.
Of course in practice they never get past the transitional phase. Anarchists often criticize these countries as being “state capitalist”, in the sense that the state takes the place of the previous capitalist class, and continues the business of exploitation as usual.
Many ancient (pre-roman) societies could be described as communist (primitive communism). Some communes are also obviously pretty close (but must survive within capitalist societies, so it complicates things).