The use of depleted uranium munitions has been fiercely debated, with opponents like the International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons saying there are dangerous health risks from ingesting or inhaling depleted uranium dust, including cancers and birth defects.

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    And lead, famously, isn’t a heavy metal. And neither is copper (used for jacks)

    No no Ukraine is only allowed to eject invaders with the most pure tungsten rounds.

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      You understand that Ukrainians live in Ukraine and poisoning their children is bad

      I can’t believe you are seriously arguing our “do not poison Ukrainian children” policy is evidence we do not care about Ukraine

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        Ask them whether a miniscule chance of light poisoning is preferable to getting abducted.

        Or, as happened just recently in Germany, thrown down a bridge.

        If you have another idea of how to get Russians to GTFO of Ukraine go ahead, present it at the UN, get your peace nobel price. In the mean time, STFU when people are defending themselves against an imperialist aggressor.

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            The last years of the Donetsk conflict have seen double-digits civilian casualties. There were about 2000 in the first year, then there was exponential decline.

            Have you compared recent pictures of Donetsk with Mariopol or Bakhmut? I’ll give you a hint: One is still standing. If Ukraine wanted to it could easily flatten Donetsk, it’s in artillery range. A million Russian-speaking inhabitants, if Ukrainians are so genocidal why don’t they just go for it?

            Russia killed more civilians in the first months of the 2022 invasion that died overall in Donetsk and Luhansk since 2014. A fuckton of those Russian-speaking (like in e.g. Mariopol). Russia abducted more children than died in the “people’s republics”.

            In other words: Shut the fuck up with your “Ukraine is shelling Russian-speaking Ukrainians” bullshit. Either you’re severely misinformed, or a straight-up Putin bot.


            And with that in mind: Do you seriously think that the proper way to react to an invasion, an invasion which comes with near uncountable human rights abuses and disregard for the civilian population, to react to that with “Oh, since you’re asking so nicely Russia, here, have a cookie”? No. Fuck that, fuck you, and fuck everything you believe in.

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              You really shouldn’t uncritically accept anything Ukraine or Russia says about the war. Of course they’re going to say the other side is targeting civilians while we only attack valid military targets. Don’t you remember Libya? Iraq? Afghanistan? Bosnia? We know how the news operates in these situations.

              Russia abducted more children than died in the “people’s republics”.

              This is misframing refugees fleeing into Russia as abduction. These aren’t moustache-twirling villains.

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                Don’t you remember Libya? Iraq? Afghanistan? Bosnia? We know how the news operates in these situations.

                Yes: We have plenty of reports about shit that people did. And we have the same now.

                This is misframing refugees fleeing into Russia as abduction.

                a) UN. b) Have you watched the Russian state TV shows where they parade them? If you know anything about body language they were screaming “The fuck why do I have to say this vile shit they put in my mouth I want out of here”.

                These aren’t moustache-twirling villains.

                Indeed not, but only because Putin doesn’t have a beard.

                Why are you defending a genocidal regime? It’s hitting all five points of the UN genocide convention, one would suffice.

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          Ask them whether a miniscule chance of light poisoning is preferable to getting abducted

          on what medical basis are you rejecting the established medical position on the severity of heavy metal poisoning.

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            You didn’t read the article did you. Hint: Look for the IAEA quote.

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      No you’re right our brave mujahideen fighters in Ukraine deserve the right to have their conscripts poison and maim their own children. They’ve got the uranium bullets and cluster bombs, but surely we’ve got some agent orange around here we can spare.