Bad people come to power because good people REFUSE to acknowlege evil when it is in front of them. Good people actually think they can redewm evil by being nice to it.
You don’t understand what happens in these countries. It’s fear and instability. Someone comes along and offers a problem to fix it. Don’t worry, you lost all your jobs because of China and the immigrants. I will fix it. Build a wall. etc
It only works because people are scared and insecure. You fix that, you fix the fascists. Nothing else will fix the fascists. Literally, you can do everything in the world. Won’t go away.
this is life under socialism!
do i look like i have a don’t tread on me tattooed on my forehead? I believe we need to have mass government actions in order to provide housing, healthcare, college, internet, power, water, etc. I think all of those things should be free. I’m not a free market capitalist
I just can see further than the front of my nose and realize that banning speech is asking for a one-way ticket to 1984
How do we fix the insecurities of alt right white supremacists who spend their free time getting off on antagonizing people for the sake of upsetting someone?
Some of them even want someone to try and fix them so they can use that for their own personal entertainment.
Nearly half of the country views Trump positively. If all of those fall into your definition of “alt-righters” then yes. But I see the alt-right as different than most moderate Republicans.
Ie business owners who are cool with gays, aren’t overtly racist, support abortion, etc and supported Trump for tax reasons.
Doesn’t do them any justice to call them gullible. Majority of people on both sides are gullible. The main thing I’m trying to say is these people historically were blue. They weren’t red. But what happens when you see your town falling apart, drug epidemic, all the jobs leave, crime increases, all the young people start moving away, you have trouble paying bills, hard to get groceries, etc
In your perspective, you’re witnessing the disintegration of America.
Then you have someone who addresses you directly and gives you a reason why (immigrants, “marxists”, china, etc) and sells you on symbolic solutions (the “Wall” tm)
You can’t just chalk this all up to gullibility.
If people were having happy stable lives where their needs were being met financially and emotionally, they wouldn’t vote for these proto-fascists. This is the key issue we need to address. This hostile attitude towards half the country will only further serve the interests of the fascists - by helping them justify a lot of their talk about “witch hunts” and “hoaxes” etc
The main thing I’m trying to say is these people historically were blue
How do you know that? What are you basing that off of?
I mean, I have an example of what you’re talking about but its the only thing I can think of where I’m like, yeah I know for sure that was the case. And only feel comfortable saying that because there is recorded evidence of someone stating that they use to be a democratic, and then switched to vote for Bush who ran as a republican.
And as for the alt right stuff - I only feel comfortable saying what I said about that because I spent several years of my early 20’s being really misguided and I was knee deep in that shit.
Trump talked about running for president since like the 90’s so that was already out there as information. The alt right groups were looking for a “new hitler” as they put it and eventually pushed for Trump. They did this through social engineering. Over the course of several years.
People laugh when I talk about this but it is a real thing that happened.
In your perspective, you’re witnessing the disintegration of America.
It’s been disintegrating for awhile now.
You can’t just chalk this all up to gullibility.
I’m not. Both things are at play here.
If people were having happy stable lives where their needs were being met financially and emotionally, they wouldn’t vote for these proto-fascists
Again. How do you meet the needs of people who are filled with hatred? I’m genuinely asking since you keep bringing this up.
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You don’t understand what happens in these countries. It’s fear and instability. Someone comes along and offers a problem to fix it. Don’t worry, you lost all your jobs because of China and the immigrants. I will fix it. Build a wall. etc
It only works because people are scared and insecure. You fix that, you fix the fascists. Nothing else will fix the fascists. Literally, you can do everything in the world. Won’t go away.
do i look like i have a don’t tread on me tattooed on my forehead? I believe we need to have mass government actions in order to provide housing, healthcare, college, internet, power, water, etc. I think all of those things should be free. I’m not a free market capitalist
I just can see further than the front of my nose and realize that banning speech is asking for a one-way ticket to 1984
How do we fix the insecurities of alt right white supremacists who spend their free time getting off on antagonizing people for the sake of upsetting someone?
Some of them even want someone to try and fix them so they can use that for their own personal entertainment.
It’s not those men you really need to fix. It’s the people who initially voted for Trump. Rust belt, blue collar, white anerican, etc.
These people had essentially been abandoned and Trump took them up as their hero.
If the economy was booming in the Rust belt, they would have never gotten Trump elected in the first place.
Yeah… Alt righters.
Nearly half of the country views Trump positively. If all of those fall into your definition of “alt-righters” then yes. But I see the alt-right as different than most moderate Republicans.
Ie business owners who are cool with gays, aren’t overtly racist, support abortion, etc and supported Trump for tax reasons.
Yeah, you’re talking about the gullible general public who was influenced by the alt right.
Doesn’t do them any justice to call them gullible. Majority of people on both sides are gullible. The main thing I’m trying to say is these people historically were blue. They weren’t red. But what happens when you see your town falling apart, drug epidemic, all the jobs leave, crime increases, all the young people start moving away, you have trouble paying bills, hard to get groceries, etc
In your perspective, you’re witnessing the disintegration of America.
Then you have someone who addresses you directly and gives you a reason why (immigrants, “marxists”, china, etc) and sells you on symbolic solutions (the “Wall” tm)
You can’t just chalk this all up to gullibility.
If people were having happy stable lives where their needs were being met financially and emotionally, they wouldn’t vote for these proto-fascists. This is the key issue we need to address. This hostile attitude towards half the country will only further serve the interests of the fascists - by helping them justify a lot of their talk about “witch hunts” and “hoaxes” etc
How do you know that? What are you basing that off of?
I mean, I have an example of what you’re talking about but its the only thing I can think of where I’m like, yeah I know for sure that was the case. And only feel comfortable saying that because there is recorded evidence of someone stating that they use to be a democratic, and then switched to vote for Bush who ran as a republican.
And as for the alt right stuff - I only feel comfortable saying what I said about that because I spent several years of my early 20’s being really misguided and I was knee deep in that shit.
Trump talked about running for president since like the 90’s so that was already out there as information. The alt right groups were looking for a “new hitler” as they put it and eventually pushed for Trump. They did this through social engineering. Over the course of several years.
People laugh when I talk about this but it is a real thing that happened.
It’s been disintegrating for awhile now.
I’m not. Both things are at play here.
Again. How do you meet the needs of people who are filled with hatred? I’m genuinely asking since you keep bringing this up.
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