The actual act of doing it gets old, but I do like the fact that you can’t fast travel out of a situation in ED, it means if you go on a deep space expedition to make discovery money you are gonna be in DEEP SPACE, and you better be fucking prepared with a ship spec’d specifically for it because you do not want to turn around and give up because you couldn’t fuel scoop or make a jump.
You definitely get a feeling of being a very small person in the galaxy with lots of things going on far away that you’ll never see, and having limited fuel and constant frameshift jumps allows for more mechanics and complexity like fuel scooping or being interdicted.
Starfield lets you go wherever at a moment’s notice which makes the galaxy feel very small comparatively and lacks stakes for exploration and jump range (along with the infinite fuel), reducing the need to have specialized ships. It also allows you to miss out on some random events that only happen when a ship in orbit with you hails you on comms. You miss those experiences if you fast travel past them all, which is echoed in other Bethesda titles with their own random encounters during travel that can be missed due to fast travel.
That being said, it’s a Bethesda fantasy version of space, you want to do fun space opera things and having hardcore travel might clash with that, I can understand why it wasn’t implemented that way. For example, no one mentions this, but I fucking LOVE bethesda’s save system of saving the exact state of everything in the universe in that exact moment. Im a filthy save scummer and I love it. I like being able to save scum difficult space battles, and I don’t think you can do that in most other hardcore space games, but I’m so grateful that I can here.
The trouble is jumping around to dots on the map is still fast travel with extra steps.
A space sim without FTL is just dying in the blackness of space.
I’ll admit it, I’m not that hardcore.
And yet there are games with FTL that actually feel good to travel in, e.g. Elite Dangerous
…is it, tho?
I think the traveling in Elite is great, but the rest of the content is grindy and/or very shallow.
The actual act of doing it gets old, but I do like the fact that you can’t fast travel out of a situation in ED, it means if you go on a deep space expedition to make discovery money you are gonna be in DEEP SPACE, and you better be fucking prepared with a ship spec’d specifically for it because you do not want to turn around and give up because you couldn’t fuel scoop or make a jump.
You definitely get a feeling of being a very small person in the galaxy with lots of things going on far away that you’ll never see, and having limited fuel and constant frameshift jumps allows for more mechanics and complexity like fuel scooping or being interdicted.
Starfield lets you go wherever at a moment’s notice which makes the galaxy feel very small comparatively and lacks stakes for exploration and jump range (along with the infinite fuel), reducing the need to have specialized ships. It also allows you to miss out on some random events that only happen when a ship in orbit with you hails you on comms. You miss those experiences if you fast travel past them all, which is echoed in other Bethesda titles with their own random encounters during travel that can be missed due to fast travel.
That being said, it’s a Bethesda fantasy version of space, you want to do fun space opera things and having hardcore travel might clash with that, I can understand why it wasn’t implemented that way. For example, no one mentions this, but I fucking LOVE bethesda’s save system of saving the exact state of everything in the universe in that exact moment. Im a filthy save scummer and I love it. I like being able to save scum difficult space battles, and I don’t think you can do that in most other hardcore space games, but I’m so grateful that I can here.
IMO it’s by far and away the best part of the game. Never gets old