The abortion debate in the US is psychotic. On one end you have prolifers that want to ban Plan B and some would definitely like to ban contraceptives too.
On the other end you have rabid prochoicers who support the idea that abortion should be an elective procedure with (almost) no limits.
Whereas, in most of Europe, we seem to have figured it out. Set a sensible limit somewhere around 12-14 weeks, allow a lot exceptions when the mother’s health in threatened or for cases of rape and incest, and that’s it. It works.
But, something else is at play here, which is that many extreme feminists don’t want any kind of equality but power. The demand to be able to terminate a pregnancy with no limits is a demand to be solely in control of human reproduction.
Oh fuck you, stop lying. The vast majority of Americans agree on reasonable abortion restrictions.
“When asked about the legality of abortion at different stages of pregnancy, about two-thirds of Americans say it should be legal in the first trimester (69%), while support drops to 37% for the second trimester and 22% for the third. Majorities oppose abortion being legal in the second (55%) and third (70%) trimesters.”
I wasn’t talking about the majority of Americans but about the prochoice activists like the ones here who have informed us that a 20 week old fetus is a parasite that can be killed at any time, solely at the woman’s discretion.
Whereas, in most of Europe, we seem to have figured it out. Set a sensible limit somewhere around 12-14 weeks, allow a lot exceptions when the mother’s health in threatened or for cases of rape and incest, and that’s it. It works.
Like hell it does. Women in Europe do not have bodily autonomy. You don’t need a special justification to decide what happens to your own body.
LOL. Your weird attempt at internet fighting is a word salad. It’s genuinely pleasing when unpleasant people make fools of themselves. So please give that one another try.
When I said try again, I meant try another attack, not do the same one again. It didn’t get any better the second time around. I’m game for round three if you want though. Like I said, comments like this from people like you really do brighten my day.
Look, at the end of the day, you chose to have sex, you chose to take on the possible consequences of having sex. In today’s modern world you have contraceptives, you have the Plan B pill. And you have sensible limit abortion of up to 14 weeks.
All of these are just convenient “get out of jail free cards” but it’s really up to a woman to not let just anyone rawdog her pussy.
I’m sorry but society can’t be organised solely around the idea of allowing every woman to avoid the consequences of her actions every time. Past a certain point (around 15 weeks) the fetus is no longer a clump of cells but a living being that does and should have have rights.
Along with every else woke idiot, you are retarded. Where did I say I want to make contraception illegal? How does making contraception illegal make sense given that I support abortions up to 14 weeks?
You are retarded. When someone disagrees with you even 1% you run a whole mental script in your head: oh they disagree with X therefore they also want to Y and Z and Q therefore they’re a Nazi.
You are retarded. You don’t have any reading comprehension.
You are retarded. You’re incapable of grasping nuance.
Ableism, projection. I didn’t say “you,” because you clearly said contraceptives are available. Yet you inserted words in my post, ran a mental script and vomited ignorance and vitriol.
Chomping at the bit for a both sides false equivalency? Interesting that you’d find it when the basic rights of a whole class of people are on the line.
Murdering a nearly developed unborn child is not a basic right. I fully support abortion up to 14 weeks. That’s more than enough time to decide if you want to abort or carry the pregnancy to term. The idea that you should be able to “abort” up the point of birth is psychotic and evil.
The abortion debate in the US is psychotic. On one end you have prolifers that want to ban Plan B and some would definitely like to ban contraceptives too.
On the other end you have rabid prochoicers who support the idea that abortion should be an elective procedure with (almost) no limits.
Whereas, in most of Europe, we seem to have figured it out. Set a sensible limit somewhere around 12-14 weeks, allow a lot exceptions when the mother’s health in threatened or for cases of rape and incest, and that’s it. It works.
But, something else is at play here, which is that many extreme feminists don’t want any kind of equality but power. The demand to be able to terminate a pregnancy with no limits is a demand to be solely in control of human reproduction.
Oh fuck you, stop lying. The vast majority of Americans agree on reasonable abortion restrictions.
“When asked about the legality of abortion at different stages of pregnancy, about two-thirds of Americans say it should be legal in the first trimester (69%), while support drops to 37% for the second trimester and 22% for the third. Majorities oppose abortion being legal in the second (55%) and third (70%) trimesters.”
https://news.gallup.com/poll/321143/americans-stand-abortion.aspx
No but but but both sides are equally bad, and what about them eXtReMe FeMiNiStS??!!??!!¿¿
I wasn’t talking about the majority of Americans but about the prochoice activists like the ones here who have informed us that a 20 week old fetus is a parasite that can be killed at any time, solely at the woman’s discretion.
Like hell it does. Women in Europe do not have bodily autonomy. You don’t need a special justification to decide what happens to your own body.
Histrionic with characteristics of paranoia and psychosis.
LOL. Your weird attempt at internet fighting is a word salad. It’s genuinely pleasing when unpleasant people make fools of themselves. So please give that one another try.
What kind of discussion can I have with someone who thinks fetuses are parasites and should be able to be killed anytime before birth?
You are psychotic and you need to check yourself into a mental hospital where you’ll get the help you need.
When I said try again, I meant try another attack, not do the same one again. It didn’t get any better the second time around. I’m game for round three if you want though. Like I said, comments like this from people like you really do brighten my day.
I didn’t even know I was pregnant until 12 weeks or more.
Stop being fat.
Wtaf? I was and am skinny, and that’s a fat-phobic and misogynistic comment
Itt: ignorant people do not* know there’s no baby bump until 3+ months. Gross 🤮
Look, at the end of the day, you chose to have sex, you chose to take on the possible consequences of having sex. In today’s modern world you have contraceptives, you have the Plan B pill. And you have sensible limit abortion of up to 14 weeks.
All of these are just convenient “get out of jail free cards” but it’s really up to a woman to not let just anyone rawdog her pussy.
I’m sorry but society can’t be organised solely around the idea of allowing every woman to avoid the consequences of her actions every time. Past a certain point (around 15 weeks) the fetus is no longer a clump of cells but a living being that does and should have have rights.
We agree that’s pretty sort of you.
The point is: I was married, chose to deliver and still realize how hateful this is.
ETA and I was on contraceptives when I got pregnant. Which people of your ilk would also like to make illegal.
You are retarded.
Along with every else woke idiot, you are retarded. Where did I say I want to make contraception illegal? How does making contraception illegal make sense given that I support abortions up to 14 weeks?
You are retarded. When someone disagrees with you even 1% you run a whole mental script in your head: oh they disagree with X therefore they also want to Y and Z and Q therefore they’re a Nazi.
You are retarded. You don’t have any reading comprehension.
You are retarded. You’re incapable of grasping nuance.
You are retarded.
Ableism, projection. I didn’t say “you,” because you clearly said contraceptives are available. Yet you inserted words in my post, ran a mental script and vomited ignorance and vitriol.
Chomping at the bit for a both sides false equivalency? Interesting that you’d find it when the basic rights of a whole class of people are on the line.
Murdering a nearly developed unborn child is not a basic right. I fully support abortion up to 14 weeks. That’s more than enough time to decide if you want to abort or carry the pregnancy to term. The idea that you should be able to “abort” up the point of birth is psychotic and evil.
So you’re using bible-thumping fetus fanatic language and fallacies to defend your “moderate” position.
Just admit it, you want to ban abortion