• Stamets@startrek.websiteOP
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      8 months ago

      So I’ve never seen it and just watched it. I knew a good amount of that but not all of it. However a major takeaway from this video, for me, is that a lot of the people who claim to hate NuTrek don’t seem to like Star Trek so much as Trek that was constrained by Berman. A huge amount of people complain about it being serialized and not episodic, having more conflict and darker tones, consequences, and ‘forced’ LGBTQ+ representation. I’m not saying everyone who doesn’t like NuTrek is like that but holy shit do a large number of people fit that bill…

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        8 months ago

        All this politics is brand new to me! Having grown up with the Berman shows, I’m so, so disappointed knowing what it could have been had the actual creators (writers, designers, actors, etc) been allowed to fully express themselves.

        I was not a fan of Discovery because the first season felt like a generic sci Fi series with a star trek coat. It felt way less fun, too. I enjoyed how it started to tie things together, and so creatively. It felt like it Enterprise season 4 correction to what the show was supposed to be. But Discovery just remained so dark and serious (much like every Fuller episode of past series I guess!)

        Strange New Worlds is pure gold to me. But now I can’t help but wonder if there are hidden fights and people being held back from potential. Shout out to Lower Decks as well!

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        8 months ago

        I think star trek still does best when it’s somewhere halfway between episodic and serialised. Like ds9 is.

        But I’m all here for every other thing you’ve mentioned, including LGBTQ+ representation. And I’m thoroughly enjoying NuTrek.

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      8 months ago

      Berman’s early comment, “I don’t believe the 24th Century is going to be like Gene Roddenberry believed it to be,” really struck me. Frankly, I don’t have a whole lot of faith in humanity, either.

      If I’d had his job, though, instead of using my influence on Star Trek to try and tone down the progressiveness, I’d welcome the opportunity to be optimistic. I’d tell that nagging voice in my head to shut up, and I’d encourage the writers to come up with thoughtful, creative, insightful, socially aware stories.

      Maybe the lack of “Bermanesque” influences is why I like Strange New Worlds so much!