I use plasma, BTW

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    Use systemd if you want. It’s not perfect, but nothing is. There are certainly good reasons to use systemd, including, but not limited to, that it’s the default on most distros and you don’t want to mess with init systems. My only complaint is that too much software and documentation is written with the expectation that you have systemd for no good reason, which makes it harder to leave, which makes more people stick with it, which is an excuse to neglect support for other init systems even more.

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      7 months ago

      for no good reason

      I think the reason is that almost everyone uses systemd

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      My question was just curiosity. If there’s a good reason to switch to something else, I’d like to know, you know?

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        You get a lot more transparency with the other init systems. Systemd is a big system that does lots of things and it’s not always possible to see everything it’s doing, because it’s doing a lot.

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          It also likes to hide things behind port redirections and binary storage of things that have always been text before so you pretty much have to use their tools to even read them

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            I assume there’s an advantage to the binary formats though. More efficient in terms of storage size? Easier to quickly search by a particular field even in huge files? Maybe something like that. (I genuinely don’t know)

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        I can actually understand what’s going on with other init systems. They’re basically just a list of stuff that gets run before you even log in. I do not understand everything that systemd does. I like understanding what my computer is doing. Most people don’t care about that, and there’s nothing wrong with that, but systemd is not what I want. I feel forced into using it anyway though, because it can be a lot of work to avoid it, and there’s no reason for that beyond the fact that not enough people care.

        I get it. I’m in a small niche within a small niche. Nobody owes me an easy alternative to systemd. I’d still like one though.

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      Agreed. Was just looking at Podman’s documentation the other day, and even though it’ll run on distributions without systemd, for a second I thought cgroups might not even work without systemd. Glad that’s not the case though, but I’m predicting a few problems down the road simply because I plan to use Alpine.

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      That’s why I don’t support systemd, anyone who uses systemd has no problem writing their own service file.