It’s not a complicated “conflict”. Its obviously a genocide. Liberals who say both sides are to blame are participating in the massacres of Palestinians. It doesn’t matter if hamas killed any number of Israelis. The so-called crimes that the Palestinians committed can never be equal to the crimes of their oppressors. Especially when their oppressors are killing them with a clear intent of genocide. It is disgusting that zionists hide behind their religion to justify what they do. All the liberals who defend them should get the wall.

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    Sorry to bring that to you… but jews have been living in the area that is now Israel before Muslims were even a thing. This argument is insanely stupid.

    Fuck Hamas, fuck settlers, fuck nethanjahu. But this whole ‘Israel is a colonizer’ is the most BS argument of this conflict.

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      but jews have been living in the area that is now Israel before Muslims were even a thing

      Not the same Jews, and not their kids, and not their grandkids, and not their great grandkids. The great grandkids of the Jews who lived there before Muslims existed are dead, because that was hundreds of years ago.

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      You can’t really claim a place you were gone from for 1,000+ years, tho…

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      The Jews that lived there since over a thousand years ago still live there, and they are called Palestinian Jews. The Israelis are settlers from outside of Palestine.

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        Thats in that simplification not true, though jews and muslims are of course on both sides.

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          “Jew” and “Arab” are not categories of the same type…. Judaism is a religion, Arab is an ethnolinguistic grouping. Someone can be an Arab Jew. You’re just regurgitating Zionist and racist propaganda without even realising it.

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              While some Palestinian Muslims do live in Israel, they are basically 2nd class citizens. This is not a “both sides” situation, on any level.

              Israel has enshrined in its constitution that only Jews have a right to self-determination in the state of Israel.