I would like to address the doomers.

Just stop. All you are accomplished is dissuading people from trying. Even if we fail, some of us would rather go out feeling good about ourselves knowing that we actually tried. If we succeed, I want to be on the right side of history. If you want to drive a canyonero through a drive through to buy a double cheeseburger on your way to the airport to fly somewhere for a shopping trip: please keep it to yourself.

  • There is still hope
  • Most people want action. I can cite more than one source.
  • Things are starting to turn around. Not as fast as we need to, but we are seeing change
  • Some of us are parents and have a reason to fight with all we have
  • If things get bad, our kids will actually want to have a relationship with us if we cared enough to try
  • Many things that help are economically better on the micro and macro scales

Doomers are the fossil fuel industry’s best friend-- even more than the deniers are. If enough people succumb to it, they don’t even have to pay lip service to the problem. Doomerism means you can continue to pollute and not even try.

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    7 months ago

    Cool macho fantasy bro. The dog won’t kill me directly, but it for sure will fuck loads of others. It is inevitable.

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        7 months ago

        Neither you or I can ‘prove’ either opinion in any meaningful way.

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          7 months ago

          But I can prove that giving up will produce an almost certain negative outcome. If we can’t prove what will happen through trying, then it is at least worth the attempt to try.