• Kusimulkku
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    10 months ago

    They’re the tools in this, not just bystanders. Unless you’re talking about those going to fill up their car in Russia or something, but I don’t think that’s a huge concern.

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      10 months ago

      A human tool is still a human, instead of an object. The only principle in this whole bread and circus is that no harm is caused to other beings who are not responsible.

      So we’re left to observe if we’re under a ruling class which fucks that up

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        10 months ago

        A human tool is still a human, instead of an object.

        I was replying to you calling them bystanders.

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            10 months ago

            Just seemed like a strange point consider I don’t think their status as humans was in doubt. Just whether we should stop Russian action or not.

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              10 months ago

              It’s a direction the current cabinet might be inching towards. Manufactured consent

              On a larger level this won’t stop whatever the next step of escalation will be and I’m not guaranteed Finland has enough planned with the EU to figure this shit out fast.

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                10 months ago

                Not sure where it is escalating after the border is closed.

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                  10 months ago

                  We’ll see some sort of “bullying” as Niinistö phrased

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                    10 months ago

                    And we’ll deal with that bullying too when we come to it. Giving into it isn’t a great option.