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    7 months ago

    I’ve only ever heard left wingers claim that compromise is ‘blasphemy’ or that “center politics” is just for people who are too afraid to admit they are right wing.

    Fuck, there’s even memes abotu being centrist is being OK with half the holocaust or the KKK.

    Your comment is exactly the insane shrill partisan hackery that is the problem.

    BAM - just immediately guns blazing accusing the other side of what your side is guilty of.

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      I was raised in a particularly right wing environment, grew up with those values, and have shifted dramatically leftward in my adulthood, and I can say with absolute certainty that you’re either lying or willfully ignorant. Are parts of the online left prone to litmus tests? Yes, but most often in the sense of “hey, I’d appreciate it if people who claim to be in my corner don’t join hands and sing Kumbaya with people who want to eradicate my particular minority from the face of the Earth, please.” They’re a reaction to intolerant right wing fanaticism, rather than a statement of intolerance themselves. You have to go all the way around to the extreme fringe of tankies way out on the left arm of the political-alignment horseshoe to find a level of ideological fervor equivalent to what is now mainstream in right wing politics. The right pioneered single issue voters with the Moral Majority way back in the Eighties, and have led the charge on (sometimes literally) demonizing their opponents since the early days of talk radio. I know, because I was there.

      If the modern left doesn’t really want to try and find common ground with a right wing that views them as something between subhuman scum and actual literal hell spawn, I’d argue that’s entirely the right wing’s fault.

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      The reason people say that is because a lot of the time these centrist people just vote Republican every time. They’re not really independent and as much as they say they don’t fully agree with people like Trump they keep voting for him despite everything he’s done.

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        I’ve always been curious to when people will realize that voting Republican or Democrat is really the same thing. They both grow government, one side just happens to want to take away a particular set of liberties while the other side wishes to take a different set. In the end nothing changes because we’re too scared to vote for a candidate who actually cares because they have “no chance of winning.”

        This was obvious ten years ago, I thought the internet would have caught on by now. Perhaps not though, because since they’re so similar they HATE one another because they really dislike that they have many of the same views so the ones they differ on are so extremely upgraded in importance.

        Note: I know I’m not the first or only one to figure this out, plenty of people realize this, so no offense to you. I’m just surprised the truth is such a niche category online, in-person, in the media, etc…

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          This “truth” hasn’t caught on because it’s complete bullshit. What set of liberties does left want to take?

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            If this isn’t a joke, and you’re on the left. Then learn the values of your own party.

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          Death penalty. I know only two “modern countries” with it: USA and Belarus.

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            Parts of the USA have banned execution. Feds don’t really do it either.

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            Death penalty for a meme? Or what are you saying? I’m not really sure how that relates to my comment.

            But Belarus is adjacent to Russia so I’m sure they’re probably terrible, backwards-ass people who should be bombed off the face of the earth or something. /s

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        It doesn’t even matter. Hard right and hard left are all just fucking nut job low IQ idiots with different flavours of asshole populism.

        Horseshoe theory is as clear as day to anyone not on the extremes.

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          One side wants to kill black people and ban non binary and trans folk from the public square

          One wants people to see doctors and not starve.

          BuT bOtH sIdEs

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            One side is pure good and does nothing wrong! The other side is evil!

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              One side is cartoonishly evil, openly calling for eradication of their enemies and those they dislike with language drawn directly from Hitler. One side is the relic of a busted status quo. ObViOuSlY tHeYrE tHe SaMe.

              Nobody cares, dude. The quiet part is out loud, you don’t have to vote or like dems, but running this purposefully disengenuous BoTh SiDeS defense for the right just shows you’re batting for the fascists.

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          It looks like you have expressed an opinion. Unfortunately, it makes you inherently skewed, therefore you’re objectively wrong because something something both sides. Now, only I remain perfectly correct at the exact center of everything, and you go down the slide of shame.

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      It was right wingers and centrists who allowed the holocaust to happen… source: rise and fall of the third reich

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        True. But it was left wingers who killed millions of Russians in gulags, who committed the Cambodian genocides, the long marches and purges of Maoist communism.

        So maybe there’s something to be said for moderation eh?