• OldWoodFrame
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    What a sad state of affairs that you think two people can’t get along because of political ideals.

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      I mean, yeah, when one party wants to put Jesus in the government, make being gay illegal, and deport nonwhite people, I’m not interested in being friends with anyone who supports that mission statement. I’m intolerant of intolerance.

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        And that’s the biggest sickening irony. If Jesus truly is the son of god, he would be the first to embrace all gay people and all trans people and straight and bi and other kind of people without any conditions of any kind. He would be truly disgusted by all this white nationalist bigotry and phobia and anti-immigration loathsomeness.

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        Sounds to me like you’ve created a non-existent boogyman to hate. I’m a conservative who is atheist, gay friendly, and thinks we should have open borders. Yet here we are with you villainizing me because I have different opinions than you on how we should handle national problems. Good job tolerant left, you’re always so tolerant…

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          They’re literally making it illegal for men to even wear women’s clothing in performances… or trying to. It’s literally in several states’ wording for their recent bout of anti-trans legislation. They’re trying.

          If you don’t think they’re overstepping, you’re either not paying attention, or a fucking despicable judgemental piece of shit like them. If you care about people what so ever and vote Republican these days, you’re AT BEST a flaming ignorant hypocrite, “conservative” or not.

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          I’m a conservative who is atheist, gay friendly, and thinks we should have open borders.

          Oh, so which conservative views do you hold that are so important that you’ll vote for candidates that use religion as an excuse to oppose gay rights and oppose asylum as a concept?

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            I believe in personal freedom. I believe in smaller, more local governance. I believe in gun rights and the right to defend oneself. I believe in free market capitalism, fewer entitlements, and lower taxes. I believe the family structure is key to a thriving society and think it should be encouraged from a policy/tax standpoint rather than dismantled in favor of government “parentage”. I believe in meritocracy rather than the ever shifting goal post of equity. I do support abortion, but not in the late term/full term like many leftists do. I think it is a necessary evil and should never be celebrated.

            You clearly missed the part where I said I was for open borders. Which current candidates oppose gay rights, and what rights are we talking about?

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              I believe in personal freedom.

              The party you support celebrates when 11 year olds are forced by the state to carry rapists’ offspring to term. The party you support cheered when a speaker at CPAC suggested eradicating trans people. Your party does not support personal freedom.

              I believe in smaller, more local governance.

              Your party won’t let cities ban fracking or plastic bags. But do they ever use “local governance” to codify bigotry into law, like with “don’t say gay” and “papers please” laws.

              I believe in gun rights and the right to defend oneself.

              And here we come to the first answer that your party actually supports: more school shootings.

              I believe in free market capitalism, fewer entitlements, and lower taxes.

              restated: Price gouging is just fine, poor people should suffer, and we should give handouts to the rich.

              I believe the family structure is key to a thriving society and think it should be encouraged from a policy/tax standpoint rather than dismantled in favor of government “parentage”.

              The government isn’t trying to take your kids unless you’re abusing them.

              I believe in meritocracy rather than the ever shifting goal post of equity.

              Legacy admissions good, diversity bad.

              I do support abortion, but not in the late term/full term like many leftists do. I think it is a necessary evil and should never be celebrated.

              The party you support does not. Your party rewards rapists by forcing their victims to carry their offspring. And you vote for this.

              You clearly missed the part where I said I was for open borders.

              I did not. I pointed out that the party you vote for is opposed to asylum as a concept.

              Which current candidates oppose gay rights

              Candidates? Your current speaker of the house.

              and what rights are we talking about?

              Equal treatment under the law. Including the right to marry.

              Way I see it, you use platitudes about your party that aren’t grounded in reality to support a bigoted party that only does well by the rich, and whose policies harm the vulnerable.

              You choose to support that party despite your stated disagreements with them. So some of the things you listed must override your stated support for gay rights, immigrants, and abortion.

              It’s the guns, isn’t it?

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          ah yes, supporting the party that mostly wants to destroy gay rights and theocracize the state as much as they can, very tolerant of you. i thank you for your courage to enable these politicians to encroach on basic civil rights despite not hating gays, non-christians, and immigrants as much as they do, so you can pretend to get lower taxes and pretend that small businesses are doing better even when almost all republicans cause the complete opposite for people who aren’t billionaires and are more against development that every single other country on earth has implemented into law because it’s so obvious how important it is to humanity like universal health care, paid vacation, and parental leave – which is pretty funny when you consider the US most years spends over half of its budget on healthcare/welfare/social security yet has long wait times, comically high prices compared to other countries’ healthcare both private and public, and the health insurance is the worst in the entire god damn first world, plus shit worker protections, meanwhile most of the EU doesn’t have these problems anywhere near as much as the US (it’s insane how leagues ahead they are of the "richest nation on Earth) despite spending way less on these most years.

          And people in the US have a much lower median wealth (net worth) than those in western Europe, despite having lower incomes and allegedly “super high taxes” (most don’t, except like Germany), meanwhile the mean net worth in the US is egregiously high in proportion to the median net worth because of the massive wealth inequality. If you make under like 700k then you get taxed more in Texas than you do in most of Europe, for example.

          But yea I’m sure the pros of being Republican outweigh the cons voting Republican entails like worse healthcare, awful underfunded and outdated education, terrible infrastructure, high taxes for lower & middle class people, next to zero worker’s rights, letting companies control what you can do with and how you can use the shit you bought (to the point where you don’t own most of the stuff you buy). I mean, how else can you support stripping away the hard-fought victories and liberties of minorities like LGBT and disabled people while acting like you’re not implicit?

          I suppose you could say the guns, but Republicans don’t give a shit about your 2nd amendment rights either lol, they vote yes for almost all of the gun laws that conservative voters complain about anyways.

          Not to say Democrats are the solution, but obviously they’re generally leagues ahead of Republicans (which is a low bar nowadays to be fair). I mean your prime presidential candidates were Trump and DeSantis, seriously? Even Biden is somehow better than them, and it’s not even close, wtf.

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          ….do you think politics is like picking your favorite sports team? This isn’t about preferences or opinions, this is about choices we make as a society that dictate whether people live or die, whether violence against groups of people (gay, queer, black, Muslim) is normalized or not.

          Open your eyes you coward.