The U.S. is not at war with Russia, we are supporting Ukraine that is at war with Russia. Is North Korea at war with Ukraine because it’s supplying weapons to the Russians?
I’m against invading any nation and I protested it many times (including the U.S.)… Can you say the same?
The problem with your argument is that it ignores the reality that the west overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine in a violent coup. This something that’s been extensively documented even in western media.
The nationalist regime that west installed has been doing ethnic cleansing against the people of Donbas. Again, this is something, that’s well documented and has been reported on by western media. Here’s a clip from CNN you might want to watch https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296
Unsurprisingly, people of Donbas did not wish to be part of an ethnostate that is trying to eradicate them. This is how the civil war in Ukraine started in 2014. In 2022, LPR and DPR republics declared independence and appealed to Russia for help. Incidentally, this is precisely what happened during the breakup of Yugoslavia when Kosovo appealed to NATO for help.
We can also take a look at a few slides from this lecture that Mearsheimer gave back in 2015 to get a bit of background on the subject. Mearsheimer is certainly not pro Russian in any sense, and a proponent of US global hegemony. First, here’s the demographic breakdown of Ukraine:
here’s how the election in 2004 went:
this is the 2010 election:
As we can clearly see from the voting patterns in both elections, the country is divided exactly across the current line of conflict. Furthermore, a survey conducted in 2015 further shows that there is a sharp division between people of eastern and western Ukraine on which economic bloc they would rather belong to:
So, question of you is whether you support ethnic cleansing of the Russian speaking population in Donbas and feel that is should have been allowed to continue?
All we can do is wait for the experts™️to tell us about it. Sadly, there’s just no way a regular person could ever possibly understand these things on their own. It’s just too complicated.
This happens almost every time lol their entire argument and premise is “Russia invasion”, yet seem strangely quiet when you ask them why Russia intervened
They never mention the Minsk Agreements, they don’t mention the coup in 2014, they zero in on the “Russia invaded” line which is why they don’t focus on anything else
“Were not at war with Russia were just supplying weapons, intelligence, training, logistics support, equipment maintenance, and medical assistance to the country they’re at war with.”
I wonder why they world doesn’t take Americans very seriously when it comes to geopolitics.
Also keep in mind these ate the same people who have been frothing at the mouth to go after Russia for their act of war of checks notes posting racist Facebook memes in 2016 to convince our population to elect Trump.
The U.S. is not at war with Russia, we are supporting Ukraine that is at war with Russia. Is North Korea at war with Ukraine because it’s supplying weapons to the Russians? I’m against invading any nation and I protested it many times (including the U.S.)… Can you say the same?
The problem with your argument is that it ignores the reality that the west overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine in a violent coup. This something that’s been extensively documented even in western media.
The nationalist regime that west installed has been doing ethnic cleansing against the people of Donbas. Again, this is something, that’s well documented and has been reported on by western media. Here’s a clip from CNN you might want to watch https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296
Unsurprisingly, people of Donbas did not wish to be part of an ethnostate that is trying to eradicate them. This is how the civil war in Ukraine started in 2014. In 2022, LPR and DPR republics declared independence and appealed to Russia for help. Incidentally, this is precisely what happened during the breakup of Yugoslavia when Kosovo appealed to NATO for help.
We can also take a look at a few slides from this lecture that Mearsheimer gave back in 2015 to get a bit of background on the subject. Mearsheimer is certainly not pro Russian in any sense, and a proponent of US global hegemony. First, here’s the demographic breakdown of Ukraine:
here’s how the election in 2004 went:
this is the 2010 election:
As we can clearly see from the voting patterns in both elections, the country is divided exactly across the current line of conflict. Furthermore, a survey conducted in 2015 further shows that there is a sharp division between people of eastern and western Ukraine on which economic bloc they would rather belong to:
So, question of you is whether you support ethnic cleansing of the Russian speaking population in Donbas and feel that is should have been allowed to continue?
As usual, they get scared off when they’re reminded that history didn’t begin in February 2022.
According to liberal world view, history is just a series of discrete and independent events that just happen randomly for no discernible reason.
All we can do is wait for the experts™️to tell us about it. Sadly, there’s just no way a regular person could ever possibly understand these things on their own. It’s just too complicated.
That’s right, don’t worry your pretty head about any of these things and just vote blue no matter who.
This happens almost every time lol their entire argument and premise is “Russia invasion”, yet seem strangely quiet when you ask them why Russia intervened
They never mention the Minsk Agreements, they don’t mention the coup in 2014, they zero in on the “Russia invaded” line which is why they don’t focus on anything else
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
“Were not at war with Russia were just supplying weapons, intelligence, training, logistics support, equipment maintenance, and medical assistance to the country they’re at war with.”
I wonder why they world doesn’t take Americans very seriously when it comes to geopolitics.
Also keep in mind these ate the same people who have been frothing at the mouth to go after Russia for their act of war of checks notes posting racist Facebook memes in 2016 to convince our population to elect Trump.
So you’re against Ukraine invading itself, right? Against the Russian speaking population of Ukraine?
Just seeing if you’re actually paying attention or if you just get your news from Western sources like other libs.
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