If there can only be 1 winner, and there are 2 frontrunners who have the only real chance of winning, a 3rd competitor only takes votes from a frontrunner and has no chance of winning themselves.
As someone like Stein is mentioned as an alternative to voting for trump, therefore the person was never a trump voter, they were never going to ADD to Trump’s chances. Their only voting action is to either vote for Biden, or NOT* vote. By NOT* I mean not contribute to bidens vote totals.
Voting for stein is effectively a non republican voter staying home.
This is a major problem with our voting system, there can only ever be 2 realistic choices, and a third party vote has greater game theory implications than independent voters like to accept.
every vote must be earned. so-called “third parties” dont take votes from other parties: they earn them from voters.
Voting for stein is effectively a non republican voter staying home.
for a party who believes they deserve every non-republican vote. but in the elections offices across the country, it’s effectively a vote for Jill Stein.
The top level argument is that voting for anyone but Biden is effectively a vote for trump. Stein is effectively a democratic spoiler
but that’s not true. a vote for anyone who is not trump is by definition not a vote for trump.
Do you not know the concept of a spoiler?
If there can only be 1 winner, and there are 2 frontrunners who have the only real chance of winning, a 3rd competitor only takes votes from a frontrunner and has no chance of winning themselves.
As someone like Stein is mentioned as an alternative to voting for trump, therefore the person was never a trump voter, they were never going to ADD to Trump’s chances. Their only voting action is to either vote for Biden, or NOT* vote. By NOT* I mean not contribute to bidens vote totals.
Voting for stein is effectively a non republican voter staying home.
This is a major problem with our voting system, there can only ever be 2 realistic choices, and a third party vote has greater game theory implications than independent voters like to accept.
every vote must be earned. so-called “third parties” dont take votes from other parties: they earn them from voters.
for a party who believes they deserve every non-republican vote. but in the elections offices across the country, it’s effectively a vote for Jill Stein.
It’s ok to hold your opinion, but it is not realistic with the game theory actually occuring.
I’m not supporting the system that makes this so, I’m only informing you of what is happening, what is real life.
Your only real choices are the 2 frontrunners.
Any non-trump vote for anyone but Biden aids the trump campaign as much as staying home.
that’s very gracious of you.
i expect to have at least 4 real choices on my ballot.
Real as I’m with a statistical chance of winning.
they’re not real choices if i don’t want them to win. a bullet to the left knee or a bullet to the right knee isn’t a real choice.
Yes, it is.
Both painful choices.
Ah, a both sides are equally bad. Right.
right. but the same is true in reverse: any non-biden vote for anyone but trump aids the biden campaign as much as staying home.
because that’s how voting works. when you don’t vote for someone, you don’t help their campaign.
Please go learn what spoilers are.
The spoiler is attached to what it is nearest.
For example, if desantis ran as an independent, he would be a trump spoiler. Splitting republican votes, and harming Trump’s chances of winning.
this is condescending. i know what democrats and republicans call spoilers. i also know that they both want to preserve their own power.
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you’re talking down to me like i haven’t voted against every president who has won since 2012.