In a new interview with IGN, Larian Studios boss Swen Vincke responded to questions about Baldur's Gate 3 being on Xbox Game Pass, explaining why the best RPG of 2023 won't be on Microsoft's subscription service anytime soon.
Hey, if you don’t see any issues. more power to you I’m glad you find their service of value. I just find Games as a Service inherently flawed and something the industry has already abused to a crippling degree.
Well, for one, Gamepass isn’t GaaS, it’s a subscription service. And most of the games in their collection are also not GaaS games, to be clear. Second, that wasn’t your initial, hyperbolic point, which was that “shame pass” is a ripoff because it only provides incomplete games (which is also not true).
If you don’t like it, you do you, but don’t make shit up about something just because.
i really don’t like it, i didn’t make up shit about it. i made an observation. You clearly see value in GaaS because you are subscribing to the…Service of Game Pass with your subscription.
What specifically did i make up? and lets not make it a hearsay argument. you see value so you’re going to point to that i don’t see value and im going to point to that. But hey you do you though, and you do, indeed do you, i see that. How long have you been paying for game pass?
This has nothing to do with what “value” either of us see in the product. What you said is simply wrong and I’ve already explained why. That you refuse to accept that really just points to your desire to promote misinformation. However, I don’t need to convince you of anything and I’m not going waste my time repeating myself endlessly.
Yeh your hobbies are safe, the big bad monster that was coming to take it all away got defeated. what’s the title of your movie? what do you call yourself? (the main character of course)
saying something is simply wrong isn’t proof. its a take, its an opinion. and you’ve been listening to hasan piker and reddit for too long if you all you care about is articles and peer review.
He doesn’t need to prove that which is widely know and easily confirmed by anyone who bothers to check, that you’re willfully ignoring that so you can call his correction an opinion, doesn’t work.
i could say the same to you. How much have you paid for the game pass and is halo infinity everything you hoped for? forza horizon 83, isometric shovel ware games in zombie theme. every single far cry, probably ubisofts.entire library.
how can you willfully ignore those trash titles and awful business practice.
you pay for it. so you feel you must defend it Microsoft is not your king, serf. be free. read more and you will find the truth when your wallet gets slapped in the ass each month and you sit wondering wat you paid for
desire to promote misinformation. bruh. this isnt trump 2024 this gaming is a hobby. and it if you cant stand what other people consider of the services you use. thats a you issue
have you tried just using those services? you’re here and not there, you paid for that.
stop what. lost what? this isn’t a competition you nard. you look dumb as rocks standing on the side line casting your mouth breathing comment into the lake. Try and provide productive value to a conversation, not whatever you are doing.
what did i lose? game pass? cant miss what i don’t have. good job, say another braindead comment im sure everyone here is delighted to have you with us
🤡…had to round up to 3 replys, especially if im teaching you to count. we ended on 2. it would be remiss of me not to go the extra mile to help you learn.
My buddy and I split the cost, and have basically since it started six years ago, so we’ve spent a collective ~500 dollars each on it. Lemme do some math to see if it’s been worth it. Add up the current, non-sale price of Nier Automata, Hellblade, Phoenix Point, Project Wingman, Grounded, Solasta, Persona 5, Gears of War 1, 2, and 3, The Talos Principle, Hi-Fi Rush, Sunset Overdrive, Recore, Outriders, The Outer Wilds and The Outer Worlds. There are more, but these add up to well over what we’ve spent on the service. It also saved us $70 when we realized that Starfield wasn’t worth paying money for.
Not launch price, current price. Like, if I wanted to play all of these games come January when there won’t be a sale going on. Had we bought all of those games at launch they would be significantly more. I guess if you don’t play a lot of video games it wouldn’t be worth it, but I’m not about to tell someone they wasted their money when they spent $500 expanding their baseball card collection or buying an entry level DSLR or something just because I don’t personally see the appeal.
Gamepass a service that lets you play games, but GaaS generally refers to stuff like Roblox and Fortnite–individual games that act as a platform to sell you things from. That’s where the flaws are. I’m struggling to see the flaw with GP except for the inherent flaws with paying for a revokable license to download games in the first place. At least GP doesn’t lie about you owning the games that you’re playing like “buying” them from the xbox store does.
I mean, is Netflix flawed for offering movies as a service? You pay a monthly fee to be able to watch a wide variety of shows and movies, but you don’t own any of it. It’s literally exactly the same thing except for the type of media they offer.
that’s the neat part, i don’t have netflix either. services that exist from content that once was and is obtainable. i don’t see the value in movie, video game, or tv subscriptions,
The value is that you get to experience more stuff for less money. There’s literally a dollar amount of value there. I paid $500 to play X number of games instead of $>500 to play X number of games. If you don’t consume any media at all, then obviously it isn’t worth it, but don’t act like it isn’t worth it to people who do consume any kind of media at all. Not all of us spend our days looking at trees or replaying the same Mario game or whatever you do for fun.
What are you even talking about? As far as I can tell, the vast majority of the games provided are complete, and also a lot of them a frankly great.
Hey, if you don’t see any issues. more power to you I’m glad you find their service of value. I just find Games as a Service inherently flawed and something the industry has already abused to a crippling degree.
Well, for one, Gamepass isn’t GaaS, it’s a subscription service. And most of the games in their collection are also not GaaS games, to be clear. Second, that wasn’t your initial, hyperbolic point, which was that “shame pass” is a ripoff because it only provides incomplete games (which is also not true).
If you don’t like it, you do you, but don’t make shit up about something just because.
i really don’t like it, i didn’t make up shit about it. i made an observation. You clearly see value in GaaS because you are subscribing to the…Service of Game Pass with your subscription.
What specifically did i make up? and lets not make it a hearsay argument. you see value so you’re going to point to that i don’t see value and im going to point to that. But hey you do you though, and you do, indeed do you, i see that. How long have you been paying for game pass?
This has nothing to do with what “value” either of us see in the product. What you said is simply wrong and I’ve already explained why. That you refuse to accept that really just points to your desire to promote misinformation. However, I don’t need to convince you of anything and I’m not going waste my time repeating myself endlessly.
Based af
Yeh your hobbies are safe, the big bad monster that was coming to take it all away got defeated. what’s the title of your movie? what do you call yourself? (the main character of course)
based af yeh?
You’re just volunteering to get down-votes at this point.
Either admit you took a stance where there was no ground to stand on, or if you’re too proud for that, walk away.
i took a stance where there is ground. Game pass is GaaS rape. and you love them for it.
what ground isn’t to stand on. Microsofts library of games teet that good?
you took a stance with no ground. see i can say that too.
really, downvotes…christ zoomers. is my social score not rizz enuff 4 u ong no cap? …volunteering for downvotes. that’s a sad take dude.
also, where am i walking away to? this is a digital forum thread. you don’t like it? move.along no one stapled your eyes to this page. but sure. sure
saying something is simply wrong isn’t proof. its a take, its an opinion. and you’ve been listening to hasan piker and reddit for too long if you all you care about is articles and peer review.
He doesn’t need to prove that which is widely know and easily confirmed by anyone who bothers to check, that you’re willfully ignoring that so you can call his correction an opinion, doesn’t work.
i could say the same to you. How much have you paid for the game pass and is halo infinity everything you hoped for? forza horizon 83, isometric shovel ware games in zombie theme. every single far cry, probably ubisofts.entire library.
how can you willfully ignore those trash titles and awful business practice.
you pay for it. so you feel you must defend it Microsoft is not your king, serf. be free. read more and you will find the truth when your wallet gets slapped in the ass each month and you sit wondering wat you paid for
desire to promote misinformation. bruh. this isnt trump 2024 this gaming is a hobby. and it if you cant stand what other people consider of the services you use. thats a you issue
have you tried just using those services? you’re here and not there, you paid for that.
i don’t find value in the service. j don’t need you to accept that either.
you refuse to accept the other take. which is equally true.
there is nothing to be right about here. game pass is valuable to you and not me.
you keep paying for games you don’t own. ownership is at stake
Lol just stop man, you’ve lost this argument. Every subsequent comment has only made you look dumber.
lost an argument that hasn’t begun no points made and no proof offered.
you should try thinking for yourself before regurgitating buzz words you found online
just stop man, you’ve lost this argument.
see in can type letters into words too.
stop what. lost what? this isn’t a competition you nard. you look dumb as rocks standing on the side line casting your mouth breathing comment into the lake. Try and provide productive value to a conversation, not whatever you are doing.
what did i lose? game pass? cant miss what i don’t have. good job, say another braindead comment im sure everyone here is delighted to have you with us
Ooh, 2 replies! I must’ve really pressed a button 😉
you work and live to please me on lemmy. reply monkey. i demand it.
thats all you can come up with?..
check this out. since you want to wack a mole this.
when you die nothing of value will be lost.
“oooh 2 replies mustive pressed a button.” say that to yourself in a mirror
does it sound clever? no. but ill take more lbs of flesh from you if you want. and you want to lose lbs of flesh. i know :)
🤡…had to round up to 3 replys, especially if im teaching you to count. we ended on 2. it would be remiss of me not to go the extra mile to help you learn.
My buddy and I split the cost, and have basically since it started six years ago, so we’ve spent a collective ~500 dollars each on it. Lemme do some math to see if it’s been worth it. Add up the current, non-sale price of Nier Automata, Hellblade, Phoenix Point, Project Wingman, Grounded, Solasta, Persona 5, Gears of War 1, 2, and 3, The Talos Principle, Hi-Fi Rush, Sunset Overdrive, Recore, Outriders, The Outer Wilds and The Outer Worlds. There are more, but these add up to well over what we’ve spent on the service. It also saved us $70 when we realized that Starfield wasn’t worth paying money for.
spent $500, Non sale launch price for comparison of games, saved $70 on starfield.
yeah, i just don’t see why anyone would do that. But you and your buddy do, so hey, have fun.
Not launch price, current price. Like, if I wanted to play all of these games come January when there won’t be a sale going on. Had we bought all of those games at launch they would be significantly more. I guess if you don’t play a lot of video games it wouldn’t be worth it, but I’m not about to tell someone they wasted their money when they spent $500 expanding their baseball card collection or buying an entry level DSLR or something just because I don’t personally see the appeal.
maybe you should. have you tried to expand your horizons?
I should what? See the appeal? That’s not how any of this works. I can’t just will myself to like something
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Gamepass a service that lets you play games, but GaaS generally refers to stuff like Roblox and Fortnite–individual games that act as a platform to sell you things from. That’s where the flaws are. I’m struggling to see the flaw with GP except for the inherent flaws with paying for a revokable license to download games in the first place. At least GP doesn’t lie about you owning the games that you’re playing like “buying” them from the xbox store does.
I mean, is Netflix flawed for offering movies as a service? You pay a monthly fee to be able to watch a wide variety of shows and movies, but you don’t own any of it. It’s literally exactly the same thing except for the type of media they offer.
that’s the neat part, i don’t have netflix either. services that exist from content that once was and is obtainable. i don’t see the value in movie, video game, or tv subscriptions,
The value is that you get to experience more stuff for less money. There’s literally a dollar amount of value there. I paid $500 to play X number of games instead of $>500 to play X number of games. If you don’t consume any media at all, then obviously it isn’t worth it, but don’t act like it isn’t worth it to people who do consume any kind of media at all. Not all of us spend our days looking at trees or replaying the same Mario game or whatever you do for fun.