While over all i agree but at some point people need to own their actions.
The concept that the state will do something to benefit you without any lobbying is childish.
The rich surely dont pray for favourable treatment. They pay proffesionals to get it done. Why do peasants think they will get anything without action and or sacrifice? For free?
I am not sure where they live but in this country you got to lobby and advocate for yourself otherwise somebody is doing for themselves against you.
I think the big issue is that responsibility cannot be divvied out into neat percentages. If someone does something, they are 100% responsible for their actions. Yet, at the same time, if another person goads that person into doing the thing, then that other person also has some responsibility. The responsibility of the 1st person who does the thing is not detracted by the 2nd person who told them to do it, but the 1st person having complete responsibility also does not dissolve the responsibility of the 2nd person.
With responsibility being so poorly defined, it’s easy to pass it up the chain of command, but then it’s also easy for those higher up to say “that’s not what I meant” and then no one takes responsibility,
No that’s called actions having consequences. Sometimes when you’re a victim, it’s because you’re a dipshit and you deserve it. Not everything is 100% black and white and “victim blaming” should absolutely happen when it is deserved.
The stupid Trump voters that are now upset he actually took away their right to choose on abortion are victims of their own stupidity and/or greed. Blame them. Shame them. Stop protecting them
That doesn’t really work as a comparison, because it devolves into the question “does anyone deserve to live?”
The fact is, someone fooled by someone else doesn’t deserve the consequences. The person who deceived them is the only one that “deserves” negative consequences.
No they don’t. That is the epitome of victim blaming.
While over all i agree but at some point people need to own their actions.
The concept that the state will do something to benefit you without any lobbying is childish.
The rich surely dont pray for favourable treatment. They pay proffesionals to get it done. Why do peasants think they will get anything without action and or sacrifice? For free?
I am not sure where they live but in this country you got to lobby and advocate for yourself otherwise somebody is doing for themselves against you.
I think the big issue is that responsibility cannot be divvied out into neat percentages. If someone does something, they are 100% responsible for their actions. Yet, at the same time, if another person goads that person into doing the thing, then that other person also has some responsibility. The responsibility of the 1st person who does the thing is not detracted by the 2nd person who told them to do it, but the 1st person having complete responsibility also does not dissolve the responsibility of the 2nd person.
With responsibility being so poorly defined, it’s easy to pass it up the chain of command, but then it’s also easy for those higher up to say “that’s not what I meant” and then no one takes responsibility,
No that’s called actions having consequences. Sometimes when you’re a victim, it’s because you’re a dipshit and you deserve it. Not everything is 100% black and white and “victim blaming” should absolutely happen when it is deserved.
The stupid Trump voters that are now upset he actually took away their right to choose on abortion are victims of their own stupidity and/or greed. Blame them. Shame them. Stop protecting them
No, I think it’s a take on the word ‘deserving’ since it’s pretty open to interpretation.
Does someone in constant pain deserve to live?
The fall of the country is probably a good thing. We need more rational people in charge.
That doesn’t really work as a comparison, because it devolves into the question “does anyone deserve to live?”
The fact is, someone fooled by someone else doesn’t deserve the consequences. The person who deceived them is the only one that “deserves” negative consequences.
Not letting the person in question be the decider for themselves is pretty wrong.
Wtf are you talking about?
Yes… because violent civil wars always lead to intelligent and rational leaders.
Get out of here with that bullshit.
Have you seen how elections are going?
And how does a violent civil war in the country with the largest military and most nukes help that? I am genuinely curious to hear your answer
You came in here with that violent civil war shit. Argue against my stance, not one you made up.
So… how does that happen peacefully without mass suffering?
Hypothetically it already happened once and nobody really cared. Remember that government shutdown?
And the same people are still in charge, so…
Try building something before you decide to burn down our society.
I have several times. I end up having everything I’ve worked for taken away over and over.