I get so angry seeing women in western democracies defending this barbaric subjugation of women.
All religions suck, but Islam never having gone through any kind of reformation is a special kind of fucked up when it comes to women.
Worst of all is seeing my liberal friends defending Islam, like some kind of PC pissing contest completely abandoning our brothers and sisters living in these theocracies.
I wouldn’t necessarily say that everything about religions is bad. For example, Christmas is a religious holiday and I genuinely like it because I can meet with my family, friends and we give presents to each other. So there are some nice aspects of religions.
However, living a life only according to a religion is quite stupid. You are just making your life harder for no good reason. Arguing that you should do something because <insert a religious reason here> is quite stupid.
Same for hijabs. If the someone wants to wear it, then they are free to do so but forcing someone to wear it is just nonsensical. Sorry but I think there are more practical clothes when it’s 35 degrees outside and it should be everyone’s choice what to wear (as long as certain rules are respected such as no nudity unless otherwise stated).
Simply said: many religious practices lack pragmatic reasoning behind them and make the life harder.
I honestly didn’t even use reddit that much. I had an account lying there for a long time but after the shenanigans that happened, I left and joined this.
Either way, it’s a common fallacy or logical argument where you pick out the tiniest thing to invalidate someone’s entire argument vs just that one thing.
Just imagine how fun it is trying to tell people constantly how blanketswithsmallpox was never a thing despite being native, being well sourced, and having the info pinned to your profile lol. Granted, it’s insensitive for a reason just like how people had usernames in the old day like titfuckercuntqueef. With mine people just have to Google though lol.
It’s a Christian holiday. Just because Christianity permeates culture so strongly you don’t notice its dominance doesn’t make it stop being a Christian, and religious, holiday.
Nope. It may be religious for Christians but that’s about it. The civilized world is laughing at you. What’s funny is how Neo Christians are just racist confederates hiding behind religion to shield themselves from criticism of their views because they know if they are honest about it and just tell people they don’t like people of color or gays, they’ll be shunned from society. Cowards. At least Atheists are honest about their views.
What’s even funnier is how being a bigot is the only part of the Bible they know. We don’t see Neo Christians following any of Christs teachings. They wouldn’t elect Jesus if he was a modern day politician. Comical.
Just some gun toting Christian’s who routinely let their pastor rape their children. it would be hilarious if it weren’t so fucking sad.
You’re so steeped in a Christian culture, you seem not realize it. Just like there are atheistic Jewish people, who participate and identify with Jewish culture, there are large swaths of people who are atheists but participating in Christian culture. I don’t think anyone would seriously argue that passover isn’t a religious holiday even if many atheists are celebrating it.
It didn’t though. Christmas was invented by the Christians to help convert Pagans of the time by saying that Christianity fits in with their celebrations. Christmas origins come from the Roman celebration of Saturnalia.
December 25 was the traditional date of the winter solstice in the Roman Empire,[45] where most Christians lived, and the Roman festival Dies Natalis Solis Invicti (birthday of Sol Invictus, the ‘Invincible Sun’) had been held on this date since 274 AD.[46]
Not exactly. Most Christian holidays are redefined existing holidays. Christmas was “oh everyone already celebrates a feast around midwinter, let’s make it a celebration of the birth of Jesus so we can still do the celebration but in a Christian way”.
I strongly believe Christmas would be celebrated even if Jesus was born in a different season. And that the celebration would be adjusted to that season.
There is already some debate about what time of year the birth actually happened. Most people agree that regardless of the actual day, it probably wasn’t Dec 25 (or the equivalent if using other calendars). That’s just the one that people agreed to use.
In the West, it is a choice, and that is good. That’s what Iranian women also want: choice.
This echoes the argument against the prohibition of abortions. Pro-choice means that women can have the option to choose to have an abortion, not that they will be getting them for breakfast.
But the privileged american women told me hijab is a choice tho.
I get so angry seeing women in western democracies defending this barbaric subjugation of women.
All religions suck, but Islam never having gone through any kind of reformation is a special kind of fucked up when it comes to women.
Worst of all is seeing my liberal friends defending Islam, like some kind of PC pissing contest completely abandoning our brothers and sisters living in these theocracies.
No reformation? You’re in a sub thread about Western Muslim women not wearing hijab.
I, Jew, have dated and had sex with said Muslim women. That’s pretty reformed big dog.
I wouldn’t necessarily say that everything about religions is bad. For example, Christmas is a religious holiday and I genuinely like it because I can meet with my family, friends and we give presents to each other. So there are some nice aspects of religions.
However, living a life only according to a religion is quite stupid. You are just making your life harder for no good reason. Arguing that you should do something because <insert a religious reason here> is quite stupid.
Same for hijabs. If the someone wants to wear it, then they are free to do so but forcing someone to wear it is just nonsensical. Sorry but I think there are more practical clothes when it’s 35 degrees outside and it should be everyone’s choice what to wear (as long as certain rules are respected such as no nudity unless otherwise stated).
Simply said: many religious practices lack pragmatic reasoning behind them and make the life harder.
Stating Christmas is a religious holiday and using the word retarded speaks volumes to your character
I agree the word choice was not correct. I apologize for that. Fixed now.
Sorry homie you thought Lemmy would be better than reddit in regards to nuanced discussion. You were wrong lol.
I honestly didn’t even use reddit that much. I had an account lying there for a long time but after the shenanigans that happened, I left and joined this.
So I cannot really compare those 2.
Either way, it’s a common fallacy or logical argument where you pick out the tiniest thing to invalidate someone’s entire argument vs just that one thing.
Just imagine how fun it is trying to tell people constantly how blanketswithsmallpox was never a thing despite being native, being well sourced, and having the info pinned to your profile lol. Granted, it’s insensitive for a reason just like how people had usernames in the old day like titfuckercuntqueef. With mine people just have to Google though lol.
Come now, no need to be like that. Everyone’s a bit retarded in our own special way…
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But Christmas is a religious holiday, but not originally a Christian one.
If you call consumerism a religion, yes.
It’s a Christian holiday. Just because Christianity permeates culture so strongly you don’t notice its dominance doesn’t make it stop being a Christian, and religious, holiday.
Nope. It may be religious for Christians but that’s about it. The civilized world is laughing at you. What’s funny is how Neo Christians are just racist confederates hiding behind religion to shield themselves from criticism of their views because they know if they are honest about it and just tell people they don’t like people of color or gays, they’ll be shunned from society. Cowards. At least Atheists are honest about their views.
What’s even funnier is how being a bigot is the only part of the Bible they know. We don’t see Neo Christians following any of Christs teachings. They wouldn’t elect Jesus if he was a modern day politician. Comical.
Just some gun toting Christian’s who routinely let their pastor rape their children. it would be hilarious if it weren’t so fucking sad.
You’re so steeped in a Christian culture, you seem not realize it. Just like there are atheistic Jewish people, who participate and identify with Jewish culture, there are large swaths of people who are atheists but participating in Christian culture. I don’t think anyone would seriously argue that passover isn’t a religious holiday even if many atheists are celebrating it.
I don’t understand, Christmas originated from the Christian religion, what exactly does it say about this person’s character?
It didn’t though. Christmas was invented by the Christians to help convert Pagans of the time by saying that Christianity fits in with their celebrations. Christmas origins come from the Roman celebration of Saturnalia.
December 25 was the traditional date of the winter solstice in the Roman Empire,[45] where most Christians lived, and the Roman festival Dies Natalis Solis Invicti (birthday of Sol Invictus, the ‘Invincible Sun’) had been held on this date since 274 AD.[46]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas
Using the word retarded is similar to using other derogatory slurs deemed hate speech.
Not exactly. Most Christian holidays are redefined existing holidays. Christmas was “oh everyone already celebrates a feast around midwinter, let’s make it a celebration of the birth of Jesus so we can still do the celebration but in a Christian way”.
I strongly believe Christmas would be celebrated even if Jesus was born in a different season. And that the celebration would be adjusted to that season.
There is already some debate about what time of year the birth actually happened. Most people agree that regardless of the actual day, it probably wasn’t Dec 25 (or the equivalent if using other calendars). That’s just the one that people agreed to use.
Because context never matters anywhere, right? \s
In the West, it is a choice, and that is good. That’s what Iranian women also want: choice.
This echoes the argument against the prohibition of abortions. Pro-choice means that women can have the option to choose to have an abortion, not that they will be getting them for breakfast.
It’s can be a choice in a liberal countries. There is some nuance in the world.
I mean, technically it is a choice. Between wearing it or getting 74 lashes on the back. :(