• OldWoodFrame
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    10 months ago

    But we can’t have 15 minute cities because…that’s tyranny somehow?

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      10 months ago

      15 minute cities are about as organic as “two weeks to flatten the curve”. There’s a reason they don’t exist, it’s not a practical idea. Just like every other idea children come up with.

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        10 months ago

        That used to be the model. Go look at old pictures. Those people were not walking hours to get groceries.

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          10 months ago

          Correct, they’d use a horse or a mule. Cars are an improved horse. Walking and biking are hobbies at best.

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            No. Just no. You can easily create a mechanical advantage greater than that of a horse with pedal power. And walking is still the majority way to get around in countries that aren’t “western”.

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            Wtf are you on? I grew up in a European city. I never got a driver’s license or even learned to ride a bike. Everything was within walking distance of my home or of a subway station. Lived like that for almost 30 years. Only when I moved to the US in a suburb I had to get a car because nothing was within reach.

      • Justas🇱🇹@sh.itjust.works
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        10 months ago

        Yeah, except all of those old European cities and newer Soviet built ones had (and in most cases still have) everything close to 15 minutes away.

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        10 months ago

        15 minute cities do exist, just not in the US. Admittedly, the concept doesn’t always work for work related commutes, because some businesses just need lots of infrastructure away from residential areas. But there are plenty of cities where grocery stores, gyms, restaurants, doctors etc. are within biking or walking distance.