As I see it, the Kentucky GOP member(s) that supported this bill stated their intentions, the unhoused now have every valid reason to protect themselves against this mortal threat with appropriate force and it would be self-defense, and anyone who views the unhoused as part of their community does as well and it would be community defense.
Until appropriate negative consequences are a possibility from people standing up for themselves, the bad guys will keep winning.
This is a strategy question without a one-paragraph answer and a bit out of the scope of this post.
I’ve lived in close proximity to many unhoused people for years, not everyone that can’t afford to join the ridiculous housing or rental markets is struggling to get food in their mouth. I’ve known many personally, they’re not all starving maniacs like the stereotypes. Some have jobs and cell phones, many have belongings, things they’ve found, been given, or were gifted. Many are nice and happy to tell you their story in exchange for some respect.
In fact, my perhaps unorthodox opinion is that left should be uniting with this group rather than trying to convince well off liberals to resist vague threats of fascism.
I’m glad they exist, I just wish self-defense wasn’t associated with right-wing idiots. ILiberals have been convinced that we’re civilized now and have no need for self-defense at the personal or community level. The state will protect us right?
Very well. So I assume you as an armed liberal will be going to that town and making a stand.
We solve society problems by society level solutions not waving around a murder machine. Your gun isn’t going to stop a drone nor is it going to save you from a random pipe bomb.
Very well. So I assume you as an armed liberal will be going to that town and making a stand.
Well, I won’t be planning specific activities the authorities disagree with on Lemmy.
We solve society problems by society level solutions …
How’s that going for you?
Drone operators have homes and families and neighbors, some of whom could object to their behavior and take action to stop them from causing harm to others. If things ever got to this point in the U.S. the battlefield would not be neatly contained.
Pretty decent. Chances are you will never be a slave and never meet one which is the only time in human history this has been true.
Drone operators have homes and families and neighbors, some of whom could object to their behavior and take action to stop them from causing harm to others. If things ever got to this point in the U.S. the battlefield would not be neatly contained.
Japanese interment camps. Your argument is defeated
Pretty decent. Chances are you will never be a slave
This is only maybe true (things are changing fast, and mostly for the worse), and only if you define slavery in the worst way, i.e. chattel.
and never meet one which is the only time in human history this has been true.
I’ve met people who have spent time in prison, given little option but to labor for pennies a day. Not hard to find at all. Slavery isn’t even forbidden in the U.S. Many others arguably fit the definition of wage slave. I myself feel compelled to sell my labor, what are my options?
Japanese interment camps. Your argument is defeated
Not sure exactly what you mean by this, but assuming you’re providing a counter example, a single instance of something doesn’t demonstrate that it is the only way a situation can play out.
Yes if you redefine words you usually can get whatever result you want. Clearly being a middle manager at Target should be described by the same word as pre civil war hell on earth that was the South and Dutch diamond mines. That makes sense.
Btw I have redefined not agreeing with me as murder so unless you want to be a murderer…
As I see it, the Kentucky GOP member(s) that supported this bill stated their intentions, the unhoused now have every valid reason to protect themselves against this mortal threat with appropriate force and it would be self-defense, and anyone who views the unhoused as part of their community does as well and it would be community defense.
Until appropriate negative consequences are a possibility from people standing up for themselves, the bad guys will keep winning.
What are they going to use to protect themselves when they can barely afford to eat?
This is a strategy question without a one-paragraph answer and a bit out of the scope of this post.
I’ve lived in close proximity to many unhoused people for years, not everyone that can’t afford to join the ridiculous housing or rental markets is struggling to get food in their mouth. I’ve known many personally, they’re not all starving maniacs like the stereotypes. Some have jobs and cell phones, many have belongings, things they’ve found, been given, or were gifted. Many are nice and happy to tell you their story in exchange for some respect.
In fact, my perhaps unorthodox opinion is that left should be uniting with this group rather than trying to convince well off liberals to resist vague threats of fascism.
Don’t worry the second amendment fanboys will be there I am sure to protect us.
I’m glad they exist, I just wish self-defense wasn’t associated with right-wing idiots. ILiberals have been convinced that we’re civilized now and have no need for self-defense at the personal or community level. The state will protect us right?
Very well. So I assume you as an armed liberal will be going to that town and making a stand.
We solve society problems by society level solutions not waving around a murder machine. Your gun isn’t going to stop a drone nor is it going to save you from a random pipe bomb.
This is block.
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Well, I won’t be planning specific activities the authorities disagree with on Lemmy.
How’s that going for you?
Drone operators have homes and families and neighbors, some of whom could object to their behavior and take action to stop them from causing harm to others. If things ever got to this point in the U.S. the battlefield would not be neatly contained.
Pretty decent. Chances are you will never be a slave and never meet one which is the only time in human history this has been true.
Japanese interment camps. Your argument is defeated
Are you under the false impression that their is no longer slavery in the United States?
He’s a bootlicker. Just ignore him
This is only maybe true (things are changing fast, and mostly for the worse), and only if you define slavery in the worst way, i.e. chattel.
I’ve met people who have spent time in prison, given little option but to labor for pennies a day. Not hard to find at all. Slavery isn’t even forbidden in the U.S. Many others arguably fit the definition of wage slave. I myself feel compelled to sell my labor, what are my options?
Not sure exactly what you mean by this, but assuming you’re providing a counter example, a single instance of something doesn’t demonstrate that it is the only way a situation can play out.
Yes if you redefine words you usually can get whatever result you want. Clearly being a middle manager at Target should be described by the same word as pre civil war hell on earth that was the South and Dutch diamond mines. That makes sense.
Btw I have redefined not agreeing with me as murder so unless you want to be a murderer…
I used no uncommon or unaccepted definitions of any word.
I’m sure you identify as a helicopter also.