• Exocrinous
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    5 months ago

    A lot of people say feminism is supposed to be for everyone. But as a nonbinary person and not a feminine person, I take issue with that framing of the conversation. So I hear your grievances. Liberation for women doesn’t necessarily mean liberation for me. I can see why you don’t want women to lead your issues.

    However, there is no reason we shouldn’t listen to the science and research done by feminists. If we form a new movement without listening to the wisdom of the past, we might fall victim to obvious mistakes. I believe that’s what happened to the members of the incel movement who’ve been brainwashed by people like Tate. They refused to listen to the wisdom women had accumulated, and fell for the first bad actor who wasn’t a woman.

    We should be responsible in what we can gain and what others can maintain when we keep communication lines open. Nothing has to be lost when we listen.

    • Kaboom@reddthat.com
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      5 months ago

      there is no reason we shouldn’t listen to the science and research done by feminists

      There is a massive replication crisis right now. I’m not sure that science and research is accurate.

      If we form a new movement without listening to the wisdom of the past, we might fall victim to obvious mistakes.

      True, but at the same time, we can’t let the bad parts in. Specifically the bits about men not having valid problems.