This is the issie with the voting system that the US uses. This makes it almost impossible for new parties to emerge because if they dont get the majority anywhere, they will not be in parliament (as opposed to, lets say 5% of the whole population voting them and them therefore getting 5% of the parliament seats).
Where I live, you have like 6 different parties in parliament and every decade or so, a new one emerges.
I really think people should vote the parties directly themselves, why would you need middle men?
Might be completely impossible, in 2016 the Libertarian Party managed to get enough votes to be legally allowed to participate in presidential debates in all future elections… then they just… didn’t…
Almost like dishonest people do not play by the same rules they impose on everyone else.
Trump isn’t like past Republican leaders. He is an insurrectionist for starters. If he gets in, he’ll be trying to stay in the rest of his life. Changing the constitution and corrupting elections utterly. Sorry Biden isn’t ideal, but he’s far better than Trump.
But there are elections where it’s less wrong. I’m pretty sure Trump’s team will be spreading progressive disillusionment. It will be progressives more likely to disengage, or splinter. Those same progressives can’t then complain they got Trump. And maybe they won’t get another real vote again to seperate him from power.
Non-voters, and third party voters, will be just as responsible as Trump voters for a Trump victory. That is the realpolitik.
In my experience Stalinists love to vote. It’s usually communists I find unwilling to vote citing a belief that the ruling class will pass its desired laws regardless.
This is basically everything I’ve tried explaining to Anarkiddies through walls of text, summed into one meme. Thank you!
This is the issie with the voting system that the US uses. This makes it almost impossible for new parties to emerge because if they dont get the majority anywhere, they will not be in parliament (as opposed to, lets say 5% of the whole population voting them and them therefore getting 5% of the parliament seats).
Where I live, you have like 6 different parties in parliament and every decade or so, a new one emerges.
I really think people should vote the parties directly themselves, why would you need middle men?
Might be completely impossible, in 2016 the Libertarian Party managed to get enough votes to be legally allowed to participate in presidential debates in all future elections… then they just… didn’t…
Almost like dishonest people do not play by the same rules they impose on everyone else.
The time to vote for third parties is not when there is someone like Trump around. It’s too high stakes right now.
Oh wow, it keeps never being the time
Maybe but now, really? You honesty think both are as bad??
Did you understand my point?
Trump isn’t like past Republican leaders. He is an insurrectionist for starters. If he gets in, he’ll be trying to stay in the rest of his life. Changing the constitution and corrupting elections utterly. Sorry Biden isn’t ideal, but he’s far better than Trump.
That in no way addresses the point of it will never be the right time.
But there are elections where it’s less wrong. I’m pretty sure Trump’s team will be spreading progressive disillusionment. It will be progressives more likely to disengage, or splinter. Those same progressives can’t then complain they got Trump. And maybe they won’t get another real vote again to seperate him from power.
Non-voters, and third party voters, will be just as responsible as Trump voters for a Trump victory. That is the realpolitik.
I don’t see anarchists oppose voting, I mostly see stalinists doing it
In my experience Stalinists love to vote. It’s usually communists I find unwilling to vote citing a belief that the ruling class will pass its desired laws regardless.
I mean, is that not exactly what happens? It’s not like Biden was able to protect Roe and now he’s promising that he can somehow bring it back?
Yes, you’re right.