• gregorum
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    5 months ago

    Most definitions of racism include ethnicity, and ethnicity includes religion.

    no they don’t— not outside of desperate arguments long past failure. there’s plenty of overlap by racists who are either too ignorant or too stupid to differentiate between race and religion, but that’s no excuse for those who know better to repeat the same mistakes.

    one may be Somali and Muslim, but that’s no excuse to confuse the two. because that Somali person may be Christian.

    one may be Indian and Hindi, but that is no excuse to confuse the two. because that Indian may be Muslim.

    one may be Canadian and Jewish, but that is no excuse to confuse the two. Because that Canadian may be atheist.

    You don’t know and you can’t assume, and you can’t wield statistics as a cudgel to assert you’re correct because, in the real world, we don’t live in a math equation. and when you’re speaking about what a specific person may feel, you can’t hand-wave that away with a generalization because you are unable to respond with specifics and are afraid to say, “I don’t know."

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      no they don’t

      Oxford Dictionary - prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

      Wikipedia - discrimination and prejudice against people based on their race or ethnicity.

      CDC - Race is a social construct that divides people into categories based on nationality, ethnicity, phenotype, or other markers of social differences.

      one may be Somali and Muslim…

      So? Did anything I said indicate that I didn’t understand this rather basic fact? Please. My point was that the word “racism” is not always used to literally refer to “race”. Words shift their meanings over time, and don’t always reflect their construction in common usage. “Naughty” used to mean “having nothing” and derived from the word “naught”. The prefix “Dec” in “December” indicates that it’s the tenth month. A “Spinster” is used to mean a woman who spins yarn. Since “race” is becoming understood as a false construction, it’s only natural that a related word would shift it’s definition.

      You don’t know and you can’t assume…

      I honestly can’t figure out what you are trying to say in that entire paragraph. I used no statistics, and don’t understand your argument why I shouldn’t. “We don’t live in a math equation”? WTF?

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        5 months ago

        Funny that you didn’t include a definition of racism there.

        Oh wait, it’s not funny. It proves my point. You can’t mental gymnastics your way out of being wrong.

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          Here are three definitions of racism I included. (This time with links for the lazy.)

          Oxford Languages definiton: https://g.co/kgs/7zcWz6i

          Wikipedia article on racism: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

          CDC definition of racism: https://www.cdc.gov/dhdsp/health_equity/racism.htm

          By “mental gymnastics” did you mean thinking? So thinking, statistics, and equations are all bad. Hmmm, I think I’m beginning to understand you.

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            5 months ago

            Funny, how none of the linked definitions comport with the gobbledygook you put in your previous comment. And by mental gymnastics, I mean the gobbledygook you put in your previous comment.

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              5 months ago

              The closest you have come to making an actual point was the word “gobbledygook”. Read them again, or don’t, I don’t really care.

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                5 months ago

                The closest you have come to making an actual point was the word “gobbledygook”.

                only if you ignore, ya know, the facts, such as the definition of racism-- which you proved isn’t what you claimed it was.

                I don’t really care.

                every mental gymnastic you preform only proves all you do is care. if you didn’t, you wouldn’t be here trying to convince everyone that “racism” means whatever you want it to mean.