• TheFriar
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    5 months ago

    Damn those people for…being poor and not having homes…

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      5 months ago

      I guess I can’t complain because there’s always someone in worse position than me, huh…

      Also, I take it you’ve never been to a city with homelessness issue.

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        5 months ago

        Jesus. Everyone has heir own problems. But counting other people’s misfortune as your hardship because you have to…see them, is pretty fucking disgusting.

        I live in a major city. Every major city has one. And the much, much smaller city I used to live in, it was more pointed. But I don’t see it as a problem with them existing in my city. I see it as a problem of…these people are cast out by society. Seeing their misery as your annoyance is…fucking insane.

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          5 months ago

          I’m not complaining because I have to see them suffering. I’m complaining because many of them are actively destroying public property. But of course you wouldn’t pay attention to that because you just want to be mad at something on internet. I don’t get what your problem is, but you’re a hypocritical and full of shit.

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          I don’t think he’s blaming individuals but the issue itself, caused by a broken society. It sucks seeing homeless people everywhere. It’s possible to acknowledge the problem while also feeling sorry for them.

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            5 months ago

            That’s a funny way of showing it. ‘The city was nice until the homeless moved in.’

            And when I pointed that out, the response wasn’t, “you misunderstood me, I’m upset at the societal flaws.” It was some flippant shit about “I can’t complain about my problems…” (their problem being…the homeless?) “if someone else has it worse than me, huh?”

            That’s not someone raging against an unjust society. That’s someone saying homeless people are a blight on their once lovely city.

            “You’ve probably never been to a city with a big homelessness problem.”

            They literally just said to me, “I don’t have a problem with the homeless if they weren’t destroying public property.”

            They have a problem with homeless people. Not homelessness.

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              My city was nice too until it was full of homeless people who destroy property, leave used needles everywhere, steal my bike, etc etc. I don’t even go downtown anymore because they are so aggressive with their begging.

              I still blame society not the individuals themselves. Every second car is a Tesla but people are laying on the sidewalk, why is it like this? We have the power to unconditionally house every single person.

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                4 months ago

                But you’re still demonizing these people. And generalizing. I can say, “I know it’s society that has created this false construct of race! But I just think black people need to have more respect because they leave their used needles everywhere and destroy property.”

                Now. That’s not exactly 1:1, but I’m trying to make the point that it doesn’t matter if you say “I know it’s society” when you turn around and keep heaving blame on the victims of those societal ills.

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                  4 months ago

                  They demonize themselves. If I was homeless I would be jaded and trashing the place too.

                  Still a product of a failed society.

                  You talk like the mayor of my city, who definitely doesn’t let any homeless people sleep in the many spare rooms in her mansion.