• Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone
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      9 months ago

      Decades of presidents on both sides of the aisle have supported and sent arms to Israel.

      It’s unfortunate (for everyone, especially the poor Palestinians) that Netenyahu is such a fucking creep and sleazeball that he manufactured this whole thing to distract from his deep shittiness. Biden happened to be the guy in the hot seat.

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        9 months ago

        What do you mean he “happened to be the guy in the hot seat”? He gleefully sent more bombs during an ongoing genocide, no one really forced his hand did they?

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          Simple rules for rulers. You don’t become president of the US if you don’t commit genocide for all the rest of the people who want it; they ultimately elect you afterall. But remember if you aren’t president of the US, you can’t enfore any change at all, you have no power.

          The most benevolent presidents will still continue to feed the war machine because they wish to be president and enact good. Biden just happened to be in the hotseat in this case, and if it has been Trump there would be war all over europe, nato disbanded and Russia getting Military funds instead.

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              Lmao “gleeful”. I think you misunderstand how your government works. Congress allocates the money, the president executes the spending.

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                The president sold weapons for Netanyahu’s genocide and didn’t have to go through congress to do it.

                You’re pulling the “you don’t know how government works” Standard Centrist Gaslighting because you can’t defend Biden’s support for genocide.

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                  I’m not wrong, says right there in your article he had to “bypass congress” to send the measly 150 mil to uphold US relations because half of your government is trying to sabotage the other half no matter the cost, reasons or means. Do you know the difference between 150 mil and 40 billion? You’re being played by these numbers that Biden “bypassed” out, the entire US government funds Israel.

                  Go read up on how your government works and then we can chat. Start by your own article

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                    The point wasn’t the amount you dingbat. He is giving aid over and beyond what some mysterious “hot seat” requires him to. Even when hampered he still looks for ways to aid ethnic cleansing. He willingly, gleefully is participating in this genocide. You don’t vote for people like that. That’s beyond any reasonable red line, but seemingly people are willing to let it slide regardless.

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      9 months ago

      The sad part is that’s probably true. Before that was Trump, Dronebama, and Bush - all four of them continued to support Israel so that’s a moot point when comparing them.

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        9 months ago

        “That’s the way we’ve always done it” is a really shitty justification for supporting genocide.

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        9 months ago

        The same on the concentration camps on the border, the same on the policies in the middle east, the same on women and minority rights, they just all look the same don’t they.

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                9 months ago

                Roe v wade got ganked on Biden’s watch. You heard him say anything about it since?

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                Not in terms of policies enacted. The concentration camps on the border were built by Obama and continued and expanded by both Trump and Biden, there is no discernible difference between them on immigration. Roe v Wade was never codified, Trans rights aren’t codified, nothing is getting done. The Iran deal just died and that’s it, Biden made no effort to reverse the stuff Trump did. At best some lip service “commitments” like the Paris Agreement. There was more covid relief under Trump than under Biden. Like what harm has the “harm reduction” candidate reduced?