cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/2139382

It seems most cross tendency engagement devolves in to fights between leftcoms/anarchists vs AES supporters or “Dengists” vs Maoists. Anyone can point at each other and say “they started it” and avoid responsibilities. We agree on 90% of stuff but Anarchists decide to randomly call us tankies and we feel the need to defend ourselves or else look like we lost without an argument. Likewise we make memes about Anarkiddies and write texts denouncing them and they feel the same. Among scientific socialists we see China as an ally and an example to learn from while Maoists want to call out “revisionism.” There seems to be a contradiction between the history of different socialist experiments and disagreements not really mattering to our own conditions and those experiments also being vital learning experiences for us.

It’s strange to think about how we pretty much agree with Patsocs on more than almost any other tendency yet they are almost useless because they don’t understand the basic dialectical method and why have our positions beyond aesthetics and thus cannot understand the basic material conditions of this country.

We can keep trying to bring more people into our own sects and hope they do work for our own type of socialism irl, but if we’re so divided how can this happen. Of course we should all just log off and do things irl, but then some will fall into the trap of either larping or just helping their own friends without the wider goal of revolution.

We all need to remember that the feds let us speak because we spend all our time bickering. How can we unify as a revolutionary left? There are projects irl for trying to find unity as scientific socialists like ChunkaLuta, but it would be nice to be able to do the same online. In a way I’m just wishing everyone could just listen to revleft and everything could work out, but what can Lemmygrad and hexbear do for this vision?

    • Serdan
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      In the context of an encyclopedia the points that matter are:

      • Is it a meaningful distinction, and
      • Is it applied consistently

      Both were part of the conversation.

      Btw, I’ve been a socialist my entire life. Immediately alienating people for not having fully formed perfect opinions on every subject is some real echochamber bs.

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              Did a mod seriously remove my comment calling you a child?

              All mods are babies, so I guess it makes sense, but still…

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                oh shit, you’re one of those guys on reddit who goes to people’s profiles and presses the “get them help and support” button

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                  I have never in my life done that.

                  You must be one of those people who make completely baseless assumptions about others so you can feel superior.

                  I was implying that he’s a pathetic man-child. Given that he’s called me a Nazi, I think that’s perfectly fair.

              • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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                "You disagree with me so you are incoherent and mentally ill. You need to be off the internet, unlike me. I’m so not mad that I got banned for defending wikipedia that I’m now whining about it and misrepresenting why i got banned. A totally not too online behavior. You’re waaaaay too online for pointing all this out.

                I hope you get help" smuglord