Streaming competitor Disney+ is looking to boost revenue with live sports tier

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    9 months ago

    okay, you don’t know what a joke is, fine.

    no, rhetorical hyperbole is not exclusively used as an after-the-fact justification to explain lies. Anybody unfortunate enough to be reading this deep into the converati

    You still went from “it’s totally uunjustifiable” and “it’s price gouging, that’s illegal!” to “Am I the only one who would prefer Netflix not raise its prices? Because I’m pretty sure I’m not.” Nobody said we preferred for Netflix to raise its prices. Nobody said or implied that you were alone in that preference. You “lied” – which is to say, you framed the debate in an incredibly dramatic and silly way to try to make your point, which I addressed in the previous comment, which is that your definition of “unjustifiable” is rooted in your personal preference, and not in any actual concept of justifiability.

    You’re sad that you might need to spend $2-4 more every month to keep the pretty pictures and sounds coming into your face. I get that, we all are, that’s why I posted it. You’re being dramatic and weird about it.

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      I also never said “it’s totally unjustifiable.” I did not use the word “totally.” That is lie number two. I also asked if price gouging is illegal, I did not declare it. I will be generous and group those both into lie #2.

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        you’re calling me a liar because I’m not literally quoting you, but you’ve been using straw men through the entire thread. Do you know why neurotypical people don’t do that?

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          Yep. I’m calling you a liar because you put things you claimed I said in quotation marks when I never said them.

          And are you using autism as an insult really?

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            No, I’m just trying to help you understand the thing you clearly have trouble understanding.

            Jokes are not lies, especially when nobody intends for anybody anywhere to be deceived and nobody is deceived. Your failure to understand that social concept doesn’t make you a bad person, but it’s a social concept you might want to try to understand instead of just calling people liars.

            And you are not entitled to pay the price you want to pay for Netflix. They need no justification to increase their prices.

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              Jokes are not lies

              Yes, I have already heard your Trumpian defense. And yet your “jokes” totally misrepresent me and what I said. Which, I don’t know, sound like lies to me.

              For example:

              And you are not entitled to pay the price you want to pay for Netflix.

              I never said I was. And yet you suggest I did. In this case it isn’t a lie, but it is dishonest. Let me guess, just a joke, right?

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                I never said I was.

                You’ve been acting very very very strongly as though you are entitled to pay the price you want to pay. You are acting like any price increase ever is “price gouging,” and you stuck to that opinion even stronger after multiple people explained to you all the ways in which it was not price gouging. You are acting like Netflix needs to “justify” price increases by asking everybody about their justification and insulting them when they suggest they don’t need to justify price increase it. It would be absurd to think that you did all of this without feeling a sense of entitlement to the prices you preferred.

                It is extremely dishonest for you to pretend you don’t understand what you’ve said throughout this thread. You actively made yourself sound like an entitled, spoiled child, and now that you’re being called out on it, you’re saying not that I’ve misunderstood your point (if you have one, I still don’t understand it), not that I accused you of something that you don’t feel is true—because I didn’t tell you you felt entitled, I told you you weren’t entitled—but no, you accused me of lying.

                Because you are not capable of processing the meaning of any other person’s words. You’re only capable of processing your own internal truth, and whether other peoples’ words reflect your own truth accurately, and if they don’t, that is your definition of a lie.

                That’s not how neurotypical, mature adults interact with one another. At some point, we learn to socialize by trying to understand what the other person is saying, in good faith, instead of assuming the least coherent version of it, and using that assumption to further assume bad faith.

                Until you learn to do that, fuck off, nobody wants to hear from you.

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                  You’ve been acting very very very strongly as though you are entitled to pay the price you want to pay. You are acting like any price increase ever is “price gouging,” and you stuck to that opinion even stronger after multiple people explained to you all the ways in which it was not price gouging. You are acting like Netflix needs to “justify” price increases by asking everybody about their justification and insulting them when they suggest they don’t need to justify price increase it. It would be absurd to think that you did all of this without feeling a sense of entitlement to the prices you preferred.

                  All of that is a lie. I didn’t bother reading further. I’m tired of your lies.

                  Edit: Actually, the word ‘neurotypical’ caught my eye. This is the second time you’ve used autism as an insult. I’m flagging both instances.

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                    All of that is a lie.

                    You wanna run it by anybody else in this thread, see if anybody else disagrees with my characterization of your comments?

                    Do you want to clarify which point of my characterization of your comments you disagree with? Do you want to describe a price increase that you don’t think is price gouging? Do you want to admit that Netflix doesn’t need to justify its price increases?

                    You’re taking it all personally, but that’s what your comments say to the people reading them. if you meant something else, you should have found a different way to express it.

                    This is the second time you’ve used autism as an insult. I’m flagging both instances.

                    I am not insulting you. I’m trying to help you. Don’t commit yourself to misunderstanding the social cues you don’t know how to process.

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        Dude, you should probably go to sleep or take a walk around or something if you’re this heated over absolutely nothing.