• aidan@lemmy.worldM
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    1 year ago

    Okay. If you have a kid, pull them out of school at 4th grade. They are ready for the world in your eyes.

    Most people includes adults who would learn it more easily. But I’d say yeah for the top 20% or so of students they’d learn more with free choice. They’d obviously still be minors so still have protections. But, I think an easier way to determine it than age is just letting people test out.

    That’s your own fault. Drop out and get your GED at 16.

    Illegal in the state I lived in, you had to be 18 to be out of any form of schooling. Furthermore at around that point COVID had started and online school largely amounted to nothing. And again furthermore, 2/13 isn’t that good of a recovery rate.

    Cool. Go to work. Nobody stopping you.

    I did work starting when I was 14, I would’ve been able to devote more and learn more from it if I weren’t in school.

    You need more education.

    You can learn outside of formal education. That is the only way I am able to learn anecdotally.

    You want to change the system?

    Many have already tried see John Taylor Gatto, one of the most decorated public school teachers ever. Or, Ivan Illich, who was more of a idealogue but still proposed good alternatives, some of which have partially been created. Or John Holt, or in some ways Caleb Gattegno. Bertrand Stern, and many more. And, I’m probably not the one best suited to take any of their places, but I can still advocate for change.

    • Locuralacura
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      1 year ago

      It sounds like you are passionate about education reform. It’d be a shame if your passion went to waste. I strongly disagree with the dismantling of public education and replacing it with charter schools. The idea is mostly advanced by people with ulterior motives. You, from what you said, truly suffer from traditional education. I get that. As I said, I hated school also. I learn in a very nontraditional way as well. But, public education is for everyone. It’s not simply a work training facility. Many of my students love school. Quite a few depend on school for daily nutrition. These are a few, among many services provided by our public school system.

      Neither of us are going to be able to make fundamental changes. But I am personally providing my students with the best education that I can. Maybe your mom, not your tracher taught you to read. But I’ve personally taught dozens of illiterate kids to read. Not only how to read, but to understand why they read and to even love doing it.

      People learn. It’s what we do. I feel like I am just a facilitator in their independent education.

      Actually, you’d probably be a great teacher yourself. You understand what a lot of teachers don’t.