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    As someone trained in this field, not everything is a bulb or an LED which can take less power.

    Where exactly you want this behavior?

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      Ha! Apple makes your phone completely inoperable if your microphone breaks. Is not just about less power is about keep everything else working as much as possible.

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        But it comes to a point where the additional cost for parts and engineering aren’t worth it.

        $100 for a flashlight with 10% the lumens for being on a single AAA would hardly beat out one that puts out the same max lumens for $5.

        Walking a trail at night that functionality would be absolutely worthless and be dangerous even to attempt. Oh it’s okay it works on this extra AAA I have….

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          I don’t own iPhone and don’t know how it does not work with microphone broken, but I would hope that everything supposed to work as long as it doesn’t require microphone.

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              That’s not planned obsolescence though. Your printer/scanner isn’t made obsolete because you run out of a consumable portion. I mean yes, it’s purposely disabled to force you to buy more ink, but buying ink instantly restores the functionality. It’s super anti-consumer behavior for sure.

              If your printer was made to perform worse over time to force you to replace the entire device, that would be planned obsolescence. Like devices with non-replaceable batteries that degrade over time.

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            You would hope, yes. Unfortunately that’s exactly the kind of thing they do

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            Sure, they can also make the camera a microphone for when microphone A stops.

            Where is the line and and at what cost point? I like how the conversation went from batteries on a light to iPhones lmfao.

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              How does one turn a camera into a microphone? Also the thing being discussed is that one part of the whole not working shouldn’t cause the whole to stop working.

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                But in doing so increases costs and can create even more dangerous situations they could be putting them up for liability wise.

                But yes make everything about iPhones because they “bad” lmfao.

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                  This is some weird brain yoga you are doing here, mister. Also the cost is the capitalist way of thinking, which as everything has pros and cons. It is not an iPhone is bad thread, it is a thread about anti-consumerism and keeping electronics out of landfills.

                  Apple was for some time (iPhone 4 era) very easy to fix, I fixed some myself at the time but today it is unnecessarily (even wasting money as you argument) complicated.

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                    Which has nothing to do with OPs meme… the thread got derailed by a completely different topic from an idiot circlejerking about iPhones bad.

                    But yes I am the one with Brain yoga for sticking to the original Discussion lmfao.

                    Oh wait, you’re actually the one that made this about iPhones instead of what the topic was about. You are the fucking idiot lmfao. Oh well this conversation isn’t going anywhere blocked.

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                  Sorry, but that’s a bullshit. What kind of liability? Why other manufacturers don’t have liability problems when it happens to them?

                  You are drinking Apple kool-aid.

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                    Uhh they do. They get litigated all the time because stuff doesn’t work the way people expect it. I have also explained it in my other comments.

                    I’m sorry you live in this magical bubble where everything is perfect and people don’t sue because something came with dead batteries.

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      It was giving an example of a general principle, not suggesting that everything ought to dim lights specifically.

      Other examples of similar principles might be:

      • Taking a little extra care when designing a new building so that adaptive reuse is easier later. That doesn’t mean adding up-front cost, but rather things like erring on the side of less specialization when deciding how to lay out the space.
      • The way they used to print pretty patterns on the cotton sacks animal feed used to come in a century ago, because they knew farmers’ wives would make feed sack dresses out of them.
      • Laying out a new subdivision with its streets on a grid instead of curvy cul-de-sacs, so that it’s easier to rebuild individual parcels to higher density or non-residential use in the future without having to raze the entire thing.
      • Designing a piece of furniture with removable cushions instead of attached padding, so that they can be replaced when they wear out instead of having to reupholster the whole thing.