• Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOP
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    1 year ago

    A self-defense gun is not a magic kill machine. Nor is it a, “Get off me!” talisman. And it goes without saying a gun is certainly not a, “Look at my gun and go away!” option. Pulling a gun on another human being says, “I intend to kill you to stop what you’re doing.” Pulling a gun is the end of ALL options. Full stop.

    Are you an episode of The Rifleman? Pulling and pointing a gun is not an announcement that “I intend to kill you to stop what you’re doing.” It’s announcement that you’re willing, which is not the same. Unless you’re immediately squeezing the trigger, pointing a gun is: “Look at my gun and go away!”

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      1 year ago

      The difference between the two is simply a squeeze of the finger, which happens under a second. If the person on the other side of the gun does not respond as if the gun pointed at them will immediately be fired, they could die if they presume it’s just a “warning”, and have a natural right to self defense.

      Real life isn’t television.

      • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOP
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        1 year ago

        Your point remains invisible to me. What are you saying with lines like,

        Pulling a gun is the end of ALL options. Full stop.

        ?

        After pulling a gun, numerous options remain.

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          1 year ago

          lmao you just replied to your own comment not understanding what you wrote. We’re done here.

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      1 year ago

      My god no. If you go as far as to draw, your intent is to kill, or you don’t draw, or show. (In fact, just waving a gun about is considered “brandishing” and may be illegal where you live.)

      Violence happens in fractions of a second. You don’t get to announce your intentions and see what happens next.

      If you don’t get that, all good! But please don’t carry a gun.

      I am a peaceful man because I choose peace. If you don’t have the choice, you are merely harmless.

      • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOP
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        1 year ago

        Still trying, but still not seeing what you’re saying.

        I’ve had guns pointed at me but not been shot. The intent wasn’t to shoot me or kill me. The intent was to get my attention. It worked. I’m still alive, and that’s a valid purpose for drawing a gun.

        To be clear, I’m not talking about this incident, only talking about pulling and pointing a gun.