Seems to me the fear of overloading one instance over another will not happen after all.

But I do hope the Threadiverse can hit 500,000 consistent active users by the end of summer.

Give me that hopium guys! 💉

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    So I have a vague understanding of this.

    I tried going to another server when I read something about a lemmy instance turning down FB. I go there and I’m prompted to make yet another account to use that instance.

    Does this mean, that I need to make a new log-in per instance, per server just to use it? If so, that’s entirely exhausting for me to keep track and I already have an abundance of accounts as is, to where I had to make a document that records every account with every password. We need an internet where it’s less of that.

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      Hey, you’re getting some well-meaning but quite confusing answers on this so I’ll try and sum up:

      • Each instance / server is its own self-contained thing, so yes if you want to change which instance you use as your home you’d need to set up a new account on it. But…
      • You DO NOT need to do this just to join and interact with communities from other instances, you can do that from your lemmy.world account
      • Some people are uncomfortable with the idea of .world potentially federating with Threads down the line, so are pre-emptively making the jump to another instance

      There are other reasons to have multiple accounts, for example I have one account that is mostly subbed to gaming stuff and then I have this account that is mostly subbed to crafting stuff, because I like to have the two separate subscription feeds. I did the same thing over on Reddit, on Mastodon, etc etc. Some people have a dedicated NSFW account. Whether you personally have a use case for multiple accounts, or whether you personally want to steer clear of any potential future federation with Threads, is up to you.

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        Maybe it would be confusing to add this but your second point could clarify that you can interact with any other instance so long as:

        • lemmy.world hasn’t defederated from them
        • That instance hasn’t defederated from lemmy.world

        For instance (accidental pun), I believe behaw.org is/was defederated from lemmy.world. Additionally, I believe I heard that lemmy.world defederated from lemmy.online (the reddit spam instance).

        I know my instance is also currently discussing defederating lemmy.online among other choices

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          Yeah I generally leave the whole defederation nonsense for a followup when it seems like someone needs the bigger picture explanation, otherwise things get lengthy. But you are technically correct, which we all know is the best kind of correct.

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            That’s fair, I tend to get too technical in my explanations anyways. Completely fair if you left that piece out for simplicity

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          Lemmy.online was taken down, from what I can tell. Pretty much everyone told that admin what he was doing was a bad idea and something that no-one wanted. Most instances defederated the site and I think he gave up.

          I think a key point that a lot of people don’t understand is that data from communities on different instances doesn’t replicate to your instance unless a user cross-subscribes to that specific community. If you build an instance and want !memes@lemmy.world to show up on your instances ALL feed, you have to subscribe to it with at least one account by browsing to your@instance.com/c/memes@lemmy.world and hitting the sub button. Only then will the content replicate.

          Server federation between two instances doesn’t magically connect all the communities, but once the users have subbed, they’ll be able to see the content they want to see on these smaller instances. The process to get all the data replicated over is just a little more convoluted than it should be.

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        Yeah let’s just keep bullying the person for not being browbeaten and downvote them to oblivion. What a Reddit way to act against someone who doesn’t want to be browbeaten.

        I wish I didn’t have to do this on a new platform but now I’m going to. I am instantly blocking people who’re going to charge at me and brow beat me more into using a password manager. Fuck. Off. I will not be nice to you about it because you are directly messing with my free choice and if I choose to not use a password manager - I’m not going to! And I’ve not once have had a security breach on any account that I’ve had and if my method has been proven true and working - I’m definitely not going to use a password manager! No, I’m not “misunderstanding” anything, you’re just being a browbeating prick so again - FUCK OFF!!

        I will not use a password manager and I refuse to be browbeaten into using one. Fucking, this bullshit of just generalizing everyone as if they’re not responsible for how they regulate and maintain sensitive information is getting fucking aggravating. Shut the fuck up!

        People with these annoying catch-all solutions that think are applicable to everyone, are as annoying as all of those damn informercials that proclaim their As-Seen-It on TV product is going to entirely change someone’s lifestyle at a whim just by calling today and covering shipping and handling. Not everyone is that irresponsible with their passwords, only the large majority do because they’re people who barely even know how to use a computer, much less even navigate in a browser. They’re the people who did download everything that had a big green DOWNLOAD button on a site.

        Well I’m not one of those fucking people! And if it bothers you so god damn much that I’m not taking your all-seeing and all-knowing ‘wisdom’ then you can take your password management solution and fucking choke on it!

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          You misunderstand why password managers are a necessity. If a website you are signe sup on get a security breach, your password may be exposed. If you use same password across multiple websites that’s a huge problem. And without a password manager you undoubtedly will be using the same password multiple places.

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          Whoa, you repeated the same phrase multiple times but didn’t really say anything of substance. Can you help us understand what it is about pw mangers that you are worried about?

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          This entire rant reads completely out of touch. You lose nothing by trying one. Run a test. You may be surprised.

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      No. You ‘can’ log in to each individual server if you want, but, because Lemmy is Federated you don’t need to. Pick a home-base and you can interact with all the others (that aren’t defederated). (Edit: tip - choose an instance that shares your interests for your home-base. It may make things more comfortable for you in the future.)

      In practice, this means instead of clicking another instance you just Search:All and subscribe to what ever Lemmy communities you’re interested in. Annoyingly this can mean duplicate communities (think r/cute, r/aww, r/pics, r/pictures, r/awwnopitbulls, r/awwcute…) but this downside is easily tolerated. Post and comment on other federated communities as you wish.

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      Also apps like liftoff store your login to different instanxes and it’s quite smooth to switch feeds.

      I reckon it can be possible to compartmentalize by topic with several accounts (for example a .world account only for news and politics, a lemmy.ml one for tech and laughing at reddit, a third one elsewhere for memes, each of them subscribing to different communities on all the instances)

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      This is how mastodon works, you need account on each instance to follow it all and post there.

      On lemmy you can have account on one instance and follow and post in all federated communities. Still doesn’t solve following “local” from several instances but is already much easier.