Are you trying to suggest that Hamas were some how justified
I can’t speak for the person you were responding to… but yes - Hamas (and every other organisation Palestinians choose to support) has every goddamn right to fight Israel in whatever way that works. And no… I am in no way suggesting that - I’m stating it outright.
And offering nothing but slap-on-the-wrist apologetics for Israel’s decades-old genocide while demonising Palestinians when they fight back makes you (somehow) less of a monster?
When you are trying to accuse someone of supporting the slaughtering civilians, and they aren’t supporting Israel in this particular conflict, then by definition they aren’t supporting the slaughtering of innocent civilians.
On the other hand, if you are criticizing Hamas for attacking valid Israeli targets in their fight for freedom, you are implicitly supporting the slaughter of civilians. i.e. you support the fact that Israel regularly bombs hospitals and evacuation routes.
You’re entitled to your opinion. I do wonder if it would change if it was your mum or brother or some other loved one that gets killed while minding their own business but whatever. In your mind, Hamas would be justified for it.
I do wonder if it would change if it was your mum or brother or some other loved one that gets killed while minding their own business
I am perfectly capable of understanding the point of view of a person who has had their entire family and/or community murdered, imprisoned or forced to flee - but having that happen to one over and over again for almost 80 years while privileged scum runs interference for the perpetrators because it’s simply more convenient to swallow the well-funded propaganda… that stretches the limits of even my imagination.
I can’t speak for the person you were responding to… but yes - Hamas (and every other organisation Palestinians choose to support) has every goddamn right to fight Israel in whatever way that works. And no… I am in no way suggesting that - I’m stating it outright.
Advocating for the slaughtering of innocent civilians is disgusting.
Israel has been doing tons of that since 1949 - where were you and the rest of the pearl-clutchers all this time?
Not advocating for the slaughtering of innocent civilians, because I’m not a monster.
And offering nothing but slap-on-the-wrist apologetics for Israel’s decades-old genocide while demonising Palestinians when they fight back makes you (somehow) less of a monster?
When did I do that?
This you?
Sure is, good job!
What about it?
So you admit to glossing over Israel’s decades-long genocide?
That’s remarkably honest for a liberal.
I don’t see here where anyone is trying to justify Israel. They’re wrong. So are Hamas. It’s that simple.
Here… you dropped some of your pro-Israel “both-side-ism” tropes - let me point it out for you.
That was exactly my point. Here. That’s why I said, ‘here’. I’m glad you picked up on exactly what I said.
I’m not pro-Israel. I’m also not pro-Hamas. I’m very much pro-notkillinginnocentpeople though.
I don’t support Israel though?
Did you reply to the wrong person?
When you are trying to accuse someone of supporting the slaughtering civilians, and they aren’t supporting Israel in this particular conflict, then by definition they aren’t supporting the slaughtering of innocent civilians.
On the other hand, if you are criticizing Hamas for attacking valid Israeli targets in their fight for freedom, you are implicitly supporting the slaughter of civilians. i.e. you support the fact that Israel regularly bombs hospitals and evacuation routes.
You’re entitled to your opinion. I do wonder if it would change if it was your mum or brother or some other loved one that gets killed while minding their own business but whatever. In your mind, Hamas would be justified for it.
I am perfectly capable of understanding the point of view of a person who has had their entire family and/or community murdered, imprisoned or forced to flee - but having that happen to one over and over again for almost 80 years while privileged scum runs interference for the perpetrators because it’s simply more convenient to swallow the well-funded propaganda… that stretches the limits of even my imagination.