• manualex16@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      In March next year there will be some friendlies between South American and European teams.

  • shitzgotreal@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    It’s kinda crazy, there is a realistic possibility that Venezuela finishes 2nd by the end of the year. If Argentina wins vs Brazil and Uruguay, Colombia doesn’t win both of their games (they have to play Brazil and Paraguay) and Venezuela wins vs Peru and at least ties with Ecuador.

    It sounds like a lot, but none of those results are crazy at all lol.

  • Differ_cr@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Wallahi we’re finished.

    If Berizzo and Milad are still there by time I wake up, imma go and fire them myself.

  • risingsuncoc@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    I’ve always liked how clean the CONMEBOL World Cup qualification is, just all 10 teams in a round robin league table format with 18 games. In contrast AFC is so huge there are so many rounds of qualifying to go through.

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      11 months ago

      I have always thought it should be a tournament out of itself. Especially now with so many teams qualifying, it would give all teams something to fight for until the end

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        11 months ago

        In that case, just make the 4 Copa America semi finalist qualify. But I prefer it the way it’s now, it helps building a team long term and better prepared for the WC.

    • Wellgrubbedoldmole@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      I love it but it’s a gauntlet of a knife fight. So many grudges, so many tough away trips.

      My only frustration is how long it takes—this cycle won’t be over until September 2025.

      • risingsuncoc@alien.topB
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        11 months ago

        Club competitions are also split into zones, not a big fan of this but I guess the sheer geographic size of AFC and clubs having less resources makes it impractical to have a truly continent wide competition until the later stages.

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          11 months ago

          Some people keep saying that CONMEBOL and CONCACAF should merge and play the qualifiers and continental competitions together, but it’s most likely an unified confederation would follow the same zonal model used by the AFC, thus rendering an unified confederation basically useless.

          • BehindEnemyLines8923@alien.topB
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            11 months ago

            Maybe, the only zone would be the Caribbean, which CONCACAF already has its own separate thing for them to get into qualifying with the rest of the continent. Probably keep that and let everyone else play a more together deal.

            Other than that you have way less countries in a combined confederation than AFC.

            Also a huge difference in a combined Americas federation and AFC is time zones. Travel is more brutal going east and west because of time zones like you do in AFC. In an Americas federation the time zone changes are not near as drastic.

            The time zone change between the Middle East and Japan is 6. The time zone change between Brazil and the Mountain time zone is 3. The Pacific time zone is 4, but that’s a small part of America, Canada and Mexico who all three have closer time zones.

            With Canada and America having an eastern time zone which is a difference of one, and Mexico having Mountain time and a sliver of central (don’t think there is a stadium in their very little central).

            So the biggest time zone difference for Brazil and Mexico would be 3, all others in CONCACAF can keep it at 1.

    • ancara_messi@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Last two games were awful from them. Even the one before they just about managed to win at the end

    • Arantes_@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      They have a new coach.

      People have short memories. They had plenty of qualifiers with similar starts before.

  • QuieroLaSeptima@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Since the World Cup expanded to 32 teams (in 1998), CONMEBOL qualifiers have consisted of 18 match days in a round robin home and away format. Previously, the top 4 finishers qualified directly and the 5th place qualified to the playoff/repechaje. With the 2026 expansion, CONMEBOL slots increased to 6 direct and 1 playoff.

    Here is some data regarding the 7th place finisher in every qualifier since 1998 (except for 1998 and 2014 as Brasil was auto-qualified as previous winner and host in those years and only 16 matches were played):

    The average 7th place finish earned 21.2 points. The most points for a 7th place finish occurred in the 2018 edition by Paraguay with 24 points (GD of -3). The least amount of points for a 7th place finish occurred in the 2002 edition by Bolivia with 18 points (GD of -12).

    Additionally, you can look at how many points it would’ve taken to tie the 8th place finisher - as you could advance with a goal difference above the 8th place finisher but with the same amount of points.

    The average 8th place finish earned 18.4 points. The most points for an 8th place finish occurred in the 2010 edition with 22 points (GD of -6). The least points for an 8th place finish occurred in the 2002 and 2022 editions with 16 points (GD of -11 and -14 respectively in those years).

    25 points would seem to be the goal to nearly ensure at least a playoff spot, but as low as 16 points could be enough in a cycle where the bottom teams struggle. Now obviously, mathematically these ranges could be much higher and lower.

    One additional note for anyone interested: In the 1998 and 2014 qualifiers (16 matches without Brasil), the 6th and 7th place finishers averaged 1.28 and 1.13 points per match. Compared to 1.18 and 1.02 points per match from 7th and 8th place finishers respectively in “normal” 18 match qualifying cycles.

    • lIIIIllIIIlllIIllllI@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Rewarding mediocrity by auto qualifying 6th place.

      I think Conmebol and Concacaf should merge into a giant super qualifying region.

      USA v Brazil in Sofi Stadium LA in a WCQ would get some attention from the USA public for sure.

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        11 months ago

        Honestly, I would’ve been fine with 5 direct and 1 (or 2) playoff spots.

        As for your second point, most of South America wants nothing to do with concacaf (me included). It would provide nothing to our region except for more money to the executives. It sure would help the top concacaf teams though.

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      11 months ago

      Very crazy that every 7th and 8th place finisher that you mentioned had negative GD. I wonder what all time 5 number summary for GD on 6th to 8th place CONMEBOL countries would look like. Is the max even greater than zero?

      • Penarol1916@alien.topB
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        11 months ago

        How is that crazy? I would think that 7th and 8th out if 10 in most competitions would be expected to have a negative goal differential.