This makes no sense to me. There’s people in the comments literally telling me to go kill myself and that’s fine but, me politely disagreeing is worthy of a 30 day ban.

  • Thorny_InsightOP
    86·
    1 year ago

    Blindingly obvious to everyone else except me, apparently.

    Please educate me. I believe I’ve laid out my argument quite clearly. What is it that I’m wrong about exactly and what are you basing that on?

    • CascadeOfLight [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      243·
      1 year ago

      The argument for it being Israel:

      • Israel has complete air superiority
      • Israel is conducting a bombing campaign against Gaza
      • Israel has threatened to attack hospitals
      • Israel has previously bombed hospitals
      • Israel has previously bombed this exact hospital
      • The audio and visual characteristics of the bomb and the damage caused (captured by multiple, independent observers) match with a JDAM guided bomb, which Israel has already used
      • Israeli sources first claimed the hospital was a Hamas base or had Hamas tunnels or arms caches, before rapidly rolling back their position to “we didn’t do it”
      • It is clearly in Israel’s interest to kill Palestinians and destroy Palestinian infrastructure, especially medical services and supplies, because they are conducting a genocide

      The argument for it being Hamas:

      • Israel says it was

      Reddit, or rather reddit-logo, is controlled by the US security state, so r/combatfootage - which banned all combat footage from Palestinian viewpoints - is not a reliable source. The idea that a ‘rocket piece’ could accidentally fall on a hospital and kill 500 people (a number reported by a first-hand MSF witness) is laughably absurd. If a Hamas rocket could cause this kind of damage, Tel Aviv would look like the surface of the fucking moon. It was OBVIOUSLY another genocidal act by the entity continuously and overtly engaged in genocidal acts. To think otherwise requires you to want to fall for their propaganda. No one in full possession of their faculties looking at the facts dispassionately could possibly conclude it was anything else.

      • Thorny_InsightOP
        75·
        1 year ago

        If it was JDAM then where are the pictures of the leveled hospital/crater? Where are the pictures of 500 dead people? That’s A-grade propaganda material for Hamas so why isn’t it all over the internet? All I’m seeing is this picture which judging by the fence and tree is from outside aswell as this with a matching fence, couple burnt cars and some damaged roofing tiles. Ofcourse there’s also the video posted by IDF of aerial footage which matches that picture from the parking lot and shows a very much intanct hospital building.

        EDIT: Here’s a video from that same parking lot. I wonder why they aren’t filmin the leveled hospital instead.

        EDIT2: Well here’s some dead bodies aswell. Not sure if it’s related to the same incident, but atleast it’s something. Be aware, VERY DISTURBING footage.

        • CascadeOfLight [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          256·
          1 year ago

          Well I was gonna bother responding, then I noticed your account was created five days ago and has done nothing but both-sides this conflict

          Have a very shitty rest of your shift officer 07