lemmy.ml is federated with lemmygrad.ml, and both are old instances (also run by the same people but that’s less relevant here). Point being is that all the people on tankie central are subscribed to !worldnews@lemmy.ml for their worldnews community and thus you get a certain voting pattern you don’t see in other worldnews communities even if you don’t see any lemmygrad.ml users commenting.
For values of “public info” that involve running an instance and inspecting the database. Also lemmy.ml itself has quite a high proportion of tankies as it’s the instance that tankies tend to use to interact with instances defederating lemmygrad.ml.
Yes. But those instances are a) young, which the lemmygrad userbase isn’t, and b) not run by the lemmygrad admins.
Also, not at all all instances are open to be a source of posts that tankies would like to make. Both lemmy.ml and lemm.ee have a rule saying “no bigotry”, how that’s interpreted is a completely different thing with people getting banned from lemmy.ml for “orientalism”. Not in the “Marx was eurocentric” sense but “you’re not Chinese so you can’t criticise China” one.
This only further proves the point that up/down votes are useless here. I can have an account on each federated instance (just one, so not to possibly run afoul any local server rules) and have a script to just run through all of them to downvote something. Could easily be a hundred votes at my singular whim.
If the names of the accounts are not particularly linked… you wouldn’t really be able to tell that there was much vote manipulation either.
When smiles and frowns can be manipulated via bots
… I’ll agree… but until then, especially on instances that believe communism works, they’re beyond useless. Hell many instances disable downvotes so those people can’t downvote anyway.
LMFAO Like this is a valid excuse. Only 2 people in this comments section is from Lemmy.ml. Everyone else is commenting here from different servers.
What a truly stupid take.
For real, I had to do a double take when I read that. Buddy probably thinks this is lemmygrad
lemmy.ml is federated with lemmygrad.ml, and both are old instances (also run by the same people but that’s less relevant here). Point being is that all the people on tankie central are subscribed to !worldnews@lemmy.ml for their worldnews community and thus you get a certain voting pattern you don’t see in other worldnews communities even if you don’t see any lemmygrad.ml users commenting.
Maybe take some time to inspect the votes? They’re not coming from lemmygrad. It’s all public info
For values of “public info” that involve running an instance and inspecting the database. Also lemmy.ml itself has quite a high proportion of tankies as it’s the instance that tankies tend to use to interact with instances defederating lemmygrad.ml.
You know that the lemmygrad users could make an account on another instance like yours to interact with the wider fediverse
Yes. But those instances are a) young, which the lemmygrad userbase isn’t, and b) not run by the lemmygrad admins.
Also, not at all all instances are open to be a source of posts that tankies would like to make. Both lemmy.ml and lemm.ee have a rule saying “no bigotry”, how that’s interpreted is a completely different thing with people getting banned from lemmy.ml for “orientalism”. Not in the “Marx was eurocentric” sense but “you’re not Chinese so you can’t criticise China” one.
This only further proves the point that up/down votes are useless here. I can have an account on each federated instance (just one, so not to possibly run afoul any local server rules) and have a script to just run through all of them to downvote something. Could easily be a hundred votes at my singular whim.
If the names of the accounts are not particularly linked… you wouldn’t really be able to tell that there was much vote manipulation either.
Votes/karma mean absolutely nothing.
Bullshit. They have very precise meaning: How many people up- and downvote things.
So what value does the up/downvote on this platform have? Enlighten the rest of us.
Their value lies in their meaning which is telling everyone how much something got upvoted or downvoted.
Really, it’s a simple concept.
So no value at all then…
In the same sense that a smile and a frown have no value, possibly. But that’s rather nihilist.
When smiles and frowns can be manipulated via bots … I’ll agree… but until then, especially on instances that believe communism works, they’re beyond useless. Hell many instances disable downvotes so those people can’t downvote anyway.