As lawmakers around the world weigh bans of 'forever chemicals,” many manufacturers are pushing back, saying there often is no substitute.

  • dan1101
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    11 months ago

    Just because PFAS is one way doesn’t mean there aren’t other things that would work.

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        11 months ago

        So for electrical fires, they use carbon dioxide to smother the fire and sodium bicarbonate to aid in putting it out, along with class c fire extinguishers. Class c are just carbon dioxide.

        For chemical fires, carbon dioxide extinguishers are also used. They can use extinguishers with bromochlorodifluoromethane, aka Halon 1211, (which I guess could be a pfas chemical, but I don’t find anything either way).

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          11 months ago

          Electrical fires don’t generate their own oxygen.

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            Well, normal electric fires don’t but, as @Vodik_VDK@lemmy.world already quoted, lithium-ion battery fires do generate their own oxygen

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              That was my point to. I guess I wasn’t clear enough.

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              11 months ago

              I don’t know that it is a good thing. It just means you can’t use baking soda to out it out.

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      11 months ago

      Wouldn’t it just be better to cure cancer? Why don’t the scientists just do that?