• SCB@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    The moment you start talking about the rich being the cause of our problems, there’s a section of society that starts tuning you out.

    That’s because this is an insane claim.

    If we actually get to the point of agreeing that excessive wealth is inherently misanthropic and should be a crime in and of itself

    This is a massive “If.” I could probably never be convinced that one person’s wealth is inherently detrimental to someone else’s well-being.

    These are very extreme views. I support the Hollywood strike, my buddy is a union leader (as were both my parents), and I’m a reliably Democrat voter, and I couldn’t disagree more with what you’ve said above.

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      11 months ago

      The thing is, you can’t get that rich by playing fair, it’s only possible at the expense of others. And I can assure you, most rich people are activelty making our lives worse.

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        11 months ago

        Again that’s a huge claim with nothing to back it up.

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              11 months ago

              Anticonsumer, anticompetitive practices, corruption and lobbying in their own interest, propaganda, tax evasion…

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                11 months ago

                I lobbied in my own interest not 15 minutes ago, as part of Citizens Climate Lobby. Just got off a zoom meeting with my rep. Lobbying is not inherently bad.

                Can you prove tax evasion? That’s a serious crime.

                Also, shameless plug - consider joining your local chapter of CCL! Took me 5 minutes to sign up and all meetings have been via zoom.

                https://citizensclimatelobby.org/

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                  11 months ago

                  Yes, I didn’t mean that lobbying in general is bad, I mean lobbying against the interest of the public. It’s commonly done by basically any big corporation + propaganda to gaslight people into believing that its in their benefit ( an example i have on hand: https://web.archive.org/web/20201102203132/https://safeandsecuredata.org/get-the-facts/ )

                  By tax evasion I mean in general doing anything to not have to pay tax, lobbying against rich people tax, keeping your assets as loans, etc.

                  I’ll look into the shameless plug

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      11 months ago

      That’s because this is an insane claim.

      Consider that they have the power to massively improve everyone’s lives but are choosing not to.

      Perhaps they didn’t personally cause and create some of those problems, but they are still the only ones with the power to make the necessary changes, so the continuation of those problems is indeed their doing.

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        11 months ago

        In what way does the logistics revolution spurred by Amazon’s growth not massively benefit every person who buys anything in the US? You’re seriously suggesting with a straight face, that Microsoft hasn’t saved literally hundreds of millions of lives just in database tech alone?

        You’re talking out of your ass here man. Hell, you’re putting billionaires on par with running a government which is simply absurd.

        It’s not on rich people to save the fucking world, though Bill Gates has personally done more for the world than most governments ever have. It’s on voters to pass policies that provide them better lives. That’s the point of democracy

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          11 months ago

          Are you serious lmao

          You think billionaires have no influence on government? Please

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            11 months ago

            I think you don’t understand how government functions in any real way at all