• agent_flounder@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I have a buddy who is right leaning in several areas. He’s not a Nazi. Not fash.

    Like, ok, he’s not super comfortable about trans people which is disappointing but we talked about how outlawing treatment is fucked and he is agrees.

    He is all for socialized healthcare. Less into socializing other stuff. And he is pro-2A like me, who is a lefty as in pro-labor, anti-bigotry, social democrat, ACAB, etc.

    We talk about politics all the time. And we can see each other’s point of view. Because we talk in person. And we respect each other.

    Online with all the trolls and shit especially in this kind of brief social media format, political discourse usually shits the bed and rolls around in it too.

    Anyway the folks I consider fascists are the ones who think in social hierarchy instead of equality and think certain identities are below them and want to “put those folks back in their place,” by law or force. T

    hey are the ones who favor authoritarianism over democracy and a return to some fake ideal before the civil rights era, before sexual revolution, feminism, women’s suffrage, or in some cases emancipation. They’re people who still praise Trump and DeSantis for the ways they hurt people not like them.

    Some of us know what fascism actually means.

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        8 months ago

        This is the major point that many seem to miss

        If they still vote for the GOP they’re endorsing facism, racism and a few other -ism’s and -phobias.

        That can’t be reconciled with a good person. If they vote for the GOP I can’t see them as a good person, because they are actively voting against the rights of people like myself.

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        8 months ago

        Yeah I know way too many right leaning people who I wouldn’t consider fascist based purely on their political views, but they support right wing politicians who are currently getting way too comfy with fascists

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          8 months ago

          Yeah, my neighbor is pro choice, not religious, and still voted for trump twice. Didn’t find out until she refused to get vaccinated while in the Navy.

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      8 months ago

      the folks I consider fascists are the ones who think in social hierarchy instead of equality and think certain identities are below them and want to “put those folks back in their place,” by law or force.

      So like, the people who aren’t “super comfortable” with trans people?

      But fascism isn’t about what individual people decide to “consider” it to be. It’s a real thing. It has a definition. Idk when we got to this point where reality is debatable, but it may be the only thing that we could stand to go backwards on as a society.

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      8 months ago

      Centralization of power is bad in any economic system. That is one way in which both sides are the same. Which style of dictator would you prefer?