• Martyrizing@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Somehow this is a better middle ground than some of the shit I’ve seen in recent weeks.

    Also can we just get a sticky thread for "[football-related individual or group] [makes statement about Israel/Palestine]? Lob Russia/Ukraine in there as well.

  • brady11@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Forgive my ignorance on this. I’m someone that just wants as much peace as possible, something that is obviously incredibly difficult in this situation

    Obviously against any antisemitism and anything Islamophobic, most of the terrible actions are from the government and terrorist organizations, which leads to many acting like they are the actions of all who are Jewish or Muslim

    Is that not what this banner is asking? Or does “Free Palestine from Hamas” mean something else? I just interpreted it as free Palestine, but to also not have terrorist organizations. Am I missing what it means though?

  • Dry_Box2760@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Free Palestine from hamas, but leave them under the occupation of Israel. Gotta love the German selective progressiveness.

  • NdyNdyNdy@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    I think if you ask people in Gaza who their biggest problem is right now and who they need to be ‘freed’ from they wouldn’t say it’s Hamas, and I deplore Hamas. This is an absurdity. What would it take for Germans to admit that Israel is now dangerously millitant, far right and actively committing war crimes? You don’t have to excuse Hamas to point it out.

    You would think a country with a history like Germany would be more alert and aware of some of the dangerous trends we’ve seen in Israel in terms of rhetoric and now actions.

  • Kogie13@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Fair banner. A “Free Israel from Bibi” banner would’ve been the icing on the cake

  • Rockyflame458@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    I get it, Germans are cautious due to their past but this is some special mental gymnastics. 8000 people killed (half of them children) but that was probably Hamas too, West Bank (where Hamas doesnt exist) has forced evacuations and settlements since 70+ years.

    For these melts, history probably started on 7th October 2023