• Cottonshopeburnfoot@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Tbh I question why it should be on the players. If people seriously think we shouldn’t be having this tournament, surely it’s on the governments, footballing authorities and management of teams before the 25 individual players (& their replacements) are asked to come together to stop this.

    Basically a political stand shouldn’t be left to your winger and DM.

    • worotan@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      It’s not a coincidence that it’s the same issue as climate change.

      People say they want someone in authority to deal with the issue, but they won’t stop buying the lifestyle whose effects they say they want clamping down on.

      And they know the people in power are there to make sure the excitement doesn’t stop, that everyone makes serious money, so they splurge on exciting spectacles for them to join in with. And those people have power because anyone who urges restraint is going against what the audience and keeps enthusiastically showing they want.

      At some point, people have to walk away from the exciting lifestyle choices offered, and just boycott the offerings so that the people organising it are shown that they have no support from the public and can be replaced by people who will act seriously.

      That’s why they and their well-rewarded broadcasters keep telling us that’s the one thing we shouldn’t be doing to express our discontent.

      And people buy into it, because they’re addicted and don’t want to give up the lifestyle, even as it gets less and less enjoyable, and more and more obviously a disaster for everyone involved except the corrupt, who thrive on the opportunities as everything falls apart.

      Football at this level is a key part of the End of the World Party that we’re funding and supporting. We all know it.

      When are supporters going to deal with what they know they have to do to deny the corrupt their power, and stop joining in so that they lose their power?

      We can’t keep expecting someone else to come and make the the problems go away. We know that’s not going to happen.

  • kneesareoverrated@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    I’m old enough to remember when we did this whole song and dance around Qatar and then nobody gave a shit about player workloads or FIFA corruption or human rights once it kicked off…

  • ScousePenguin@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    It’s shit like the club world cup which will have players noping out of. No way people don’t go to a world cup.

    • risingsuncoc@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      I struggle to find how the revamped Club World Cup will have much appeal. They are basically disregarding the many decades’ history of the Intercontinental Cup/ yearly CWC format for a new 4 year tournament that is more associated with national teams.

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        11 months ago

        I mean sure there’s history behind it but it’s not like people care right now

  • FlamingLaps1709@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Could should mean should at this stage.

    It’s just going to get worse and worse and worse. But you are relying on the morals of a bubble of peop

    This feels worse than Qatar. The fiddling with the award ststem to demean the other Continental Sporting Bodies of Africa and South America’s opportunity to host the competition properly simply because they knew it wasn’t financially worth it is the most sickening part in my opinion. It just shows they wanted to speed up process to manipulate the system to get Saudi their World Cup to get their money and retire happily ever after.

    It also decreased any chance they would face competition in their bid at this time within Asian/Oceanic confederations.

    It’s so blatant abd Infantino horrible horrible smug face knows we all know but can’t do anything about it because… eh… on surface level the award system has been processed “correctly”.

    • maxime0299@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Of course it will be a winter WC, there’s no way to play in summer in that overheated sandbox

  • TheLimeyLemmon@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    I’m not surprised at all. Long term I think if FIFA had their way, they’d have international football all year round and there’d simply be no realistic way for players to commit fully to both club and country. The modern football schedule is only getting worse.

    • a_lumberjack@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Nah, they want high value, not high volume.

      The last time FIFA proposed a schedule change they wanted one 28 day window instead of five ten day windows. Seven match days instead of ten. Even with world cups every two years most teams would play fewer matches.

  • Hokage123456789@alien.topOPB
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    11 months ago

    Full quote-

    ‘We all want our biggest tournaments to showcase our best players,’ he told Mail Sport. ‘That means we need to start listening when players start opting out of international football due to the pressures of the workload they are facing. We think that’s a real risk’

    Molango also called for more clarity around the fixture list. ‘It’s important that we wait to see the detail, but we have to get to a situation where there is far greater co-ordination around the organisation of the global fixture calendar,’ he said.

    ‘We can’t keep treating tournaments and competitions in isolation. There is always a knock-on impact.’

    Molango has spent time with Manchester United defender Raphael Varane – who retired from international football at the age of 29 earlier this year after playing in the final for France in Qatar. And he questioned a return to a winter event.

    ‘The men’s World Cup in Qatar was played in the European winter, but this was understood to be an exceptional circumstance,’ he said. ‘If that now isn’t going to be the case, we need to have a proper understanding of what that means for the scheduling of the wider calendar and, crucially, the impact on players in terms of injuries and fitness.

    ‘We’re not far enough removed from Qatar yet to assess that, but we know there is concern among players that they simply never get a break. Lengthening seasons to accommodate tournament scheduling obviously isn’t going to help.’

  • Tim-Sanchez@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Players are much more likely to pull out of any other tournaments to preserve their fitness for the World Cup. As we saw with Qatar, it’s all talk and players won’t quit on the World Cup.

    • Thueringer-Kloese@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Well, they make their salaries with the clubs. If they had to pull out of a tournament it has to be the national team where they “only” receive bonuses.

  • BirnirG@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    I come from a small nation, but if we have a winter world cup again, i will be dead set on trying to get my nation to boycott it.