• Pili [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    im unsure if the suffering outweighs all the workers it employs, or evsn ths fact that they taste good.

    The workers employed in that industry very often end up with PTSD because of all the horrors they experience every day. Stopping the support for the animal holocaust is the best way to help those fellow workers possibly find a better job in the processing of plant based food, possibly saving their lives.

    And yes, the suffering of others absolutely outweighs 15 minutes of sensory entertainment, how is that even a question?

    veganism benefitted my class id be more enthusiastic in becoming a vegetarian

    My first point already explained why it benefits your class, but I will also add that a vegan diet is the single most impactful thing someone can do to reduce their carbon footprint. So, if your class will suffer from climte change (it will) then going vegan is a necessity.

    And also this: Veggie-based diets could save 8 million lives by 2050 and cut global warming

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      My first point already explained why it benefits your class, but I will also add that a vegan diet is the single most impactful thing someone can do to reduce their carbon footprint. So, if your class will suffer from climte change (it will) then going vegan is a necessity.

      the idea of the personal carbon footprint is propaganda created by BP to distract from real environmental issues, much like the idea of the litterbug was corporate propaganda created to distract from actually meaningful pollution by industry.

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        Yes, the personal carbon footprint is tiny compared to corporations, but that shouldn’t be an excuse not to care about our individual impact. Getting people invested in the problem of the climate crisis is essential to get some regulations from our governments. We will get nothing if everyone just doesn’t seem to care.

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      Becoming a vegan is too individualist. I wont become a vegan for the same reason i wont ask my husband to stop smoking weed to boycot the cartels. I dont see a way any local activism could work. So with neither collective or individual action open to me, i am locked at acknowledging the suffering and not changing my actions.

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        The collective is composed of individuals. It’s evident that the collective will never form if every individual is too lazy to make tiny adjustments.

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          I disagree as collective action is not made up of individualist decisions. Its made up of individual ones. The individuals get together and decide to go on strike at the same time for example. They dont all just individualisticly decide to stop working until there is a domino effect.

          Im saying that its a waste of time to be an individualist vegan. If it matters to you so much, join a radical animal rights group like elf or peta. They are doing collective action. Ive always felt like PETA wasnt that bad, tbh. They at least do something.

          If you believe that animal slavery is at all morally similar to human slavery, then you might want to dedicate your life to becoming farm Spartacus. That isnt me mocking you, but an actual suggestion.

          I know all about how frustrating it is to be the only who cares about something. So even though i dont care about animals like humans, i respect that you might.