They could still have a wild card guy like Brace in Trueanon, Jake in Qanon Anonymous, or Henry in Last Podcast on the Left. That wild card guy just can’t be obnoxious or derail the podcast. Maybe get some radical urbanist or a political economy nerd in terms of contribution, or just a non-obnoxious normal schmuck who will yell the same radical things I want to yell. Someone like Adam Conover or the Crime Pays But Botany Doesn’t guy would be the ideal. When Alice has historian Patrick Wyman on Trash Future he’s also a good fit for their dynamic.