I really hope you’re right. But this doesn’t seem to settle with the Foxxconn suicides that happened due to low wage and brutal working conditions.

I’m not sure that wage increases is comparable to western countries, in the last 3 decades china has become very rich from being very poor. It is only reasonable that wages will go up. And for numbers: China’s gdp rose 1600% in the last 3 decades, it would seem that 400% wage increase keeps most money in the hands of the employers and not in the hands of workers. And in absolute terms, Chinese labor is much much cheaper than any other western country (that’s why China manufactures most of the world’s goods), meaning Chinese workers get much less money for their efforts.

China has a huge housing crisis (just like most other developed countries). The state had built huge ghost cities that nobody wants to live in, people bought unfinished houses and are now refusing to pay their mortgage. Just google china housing crisis and look at the problems it has to face.

China’s street poverty and homelessness has not been eradicated

I believe you that unions are strong in china, but having strong unions in my country as well, I can only wonder how corrupt Chinese unions are.

China is not the amazing safe haven you present it to be

This sounds extremely close to propaganda.

Please state some negatives about China, including discussing the controversial history?

Some of this is real. Some of this is aspirational. Some of this is straight-up propaganda (and not even very credible propaganda!).

Life in China is nowhere near as dire as most westerners feel seemingly compelled to insist it “really” is. Life in China is nowhere near as paradisiacal as its strongest proponents feel compelled to state it is. The truth, as is usual, lies somewhere between the extremes and, further, in a nation as large and ornate as China, varies strongly according to where you are.

Many (not all) of the horrific stories you hear (like the Foxconn thing: I work about a 25 minute walk from that campus) are true-ish but usually overstated and are not representative of most experienced life here. (One area, however, where China is very similar to the west is that tech companies are utter dumpster fires as employers.) Conversely many of the rosy pictures you find painted in the above links are also overstated, incompletely analyzed, and again not representative of the lived lives of most people here.

For an example of the latter, I’ll pick on the “own their own home” thing. Yes, it’s true, 70% of Chinese millennials own their own home. Because their parents (and sometimes their grandparents!) took massive hits to their lifestyles to scrape the money together … for a down payment. (A frequent pattern is Chinese seniors taking up a mortgage on a home they’ve owned for decades just so they can meet a down payment for their children or grandchildren.) In the bigger cities people refer to themselves as “house slaves” because the majority of their income goes to service their mortgages, community fees, and other expenses related solely to owning a home. They own their own home, but very little else as a result. What’s going on with housing here right now cannot continue for much longer before there’s a collapse, and there’s some signs of that collapse already beginning as young people put off getting married later and later and later in life (because it’s almost obligatory for the man to own a home before marriage). There will come a time where people will stop bothering to even get married, to have children, because of something as simple as “I can’t afford a house in my lifetime”. The older generations can only mortgage off so much before the well runs dry.

(Source for my opinions: 22 years and counting of living and working in China, observing both my own state and that of my extended family here.)

You’re getting a lot of downvotes, but nobody commenting with counter points. Everything you said sounds wrong to me, but I genuinely have no idea.

oh damn, that’s very elaborate, much thanks 😊 🙏🫡