• chaogomu@kbin.social
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    8 months ago

    See, that’s the problem, you want to fight. Israel wants the fight, because the n they can justify more ethnic cleansing.

    To deal with Hamas, you have to deal with the root causes of Hamas.

    You have to defuse the justified anger of the Palestinian people, stop the settlers, put many of them in jail for the crimes they’ve committed, put many Israeli leaders in jail for the crimes they too have committed, and then put the leaders of Hamas in jail.

    That’s the starting point.

    Give all the Palestinians citizenship, and the protections that come with it.

    Side note, did you know that the vast majority of Palestinians don’t have citizenship of any country, despite being born in the area? The area their grandparents were born in? Their great-great-to-the-uncounted generation grandparents?

    Yeah, give all Palestinians full citizenship. That right there would diffuse a lot of the anger. And then you can work on dismantling Hamas as a police matter, and not as a military target.

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      Israel doesn’t “want the fight”, they didn’t start it - Hamas did by buffering over a thousand people, including beheading children and raping women, and taking hundreds hostage.

      Israel sure are looking at finishing the fight though, and honestly can you blame them?

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        8 months ago

        That’s some revisionist history right there.

        Zionists did start this fight, beginning with the Balfour Declaration. (which was actually a very antisemitic document, but used to justify countless atrocities against the Palestinian people)

        Hell, more recently, Israel helped found, and fund, Hamas.

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            8 months ago

            Pretending that the current conflict is its own unique little thing with no historical context is what’s laughable.

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      See, that’s the problem, you want to fight. Israel wants the fight, because the n they can justify more ethnic cleansing. I

      Let’s see how far into the BS you can go. So, it didn’t have anything to do with the butchery of 10/07?

      As far as the other stuff is concerned, after the war there will be changes. Israel doesn’t want occupation. So Palestinians and the world will have to figure it out.

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        Israel doesn’t want an occupation? What the fuck are they doing in the West Bank then? That’s a full military occupation.

        But no. You’re right. Israel seems to want to kill everyone in Gaza, or maybe just force the survivors to live in an even more cramped concentration camp.

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        What about the butchery of bombing the Palestinian embassy killing 91 civilians.

        Oh yeah that was Israel forcing they’re way into mandatory Palestine only to start a campaign of civilian bombing, and outright murder and torture.

        If we’re playing the “but what about” game we have something like 3000 years and hundreds of thousands if not millions of casualties.