• CrushKillDestroySwag@hexbear.net
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        I don’t think you do, but I think it’s a contradiction to be sure. I’ll say that I think it’s fine to eat animals, but also I think it’s not okay to have sex with them, and somewhere in between those two beliefs is artificial insemination of pigs and in practical terms that’s a practice that just makes me shrug, so I suppose that my belief that it’s not okay to have sex with animals is weaker than my belief that it’s fine to eat them.

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                Let’s back up to square one. Is it wrong to perform sex acts on a non-human animal? If so, why? You’re talking too abstractly so I’d really like to just get something concrete to discuss with.

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                  i don’t think that’s square one, i think square one is further back.

                  Is a doctor (or medical technician or whatever job title idc) doing the last step of IVF performing a sex act on or with the patient? the adult patient consents of course, but i don’t think anyone thinks a doctor with a “turkey baster” is doing a sex act. I would say “preforming sex acts on…” isn’t applicable to animal husbandry in the way i understand all those words.

                  i’m not trying to debate bro here, it’s just not possible to have a conversation if we think words mean different things… which gets back to my previous point about vegans using a wider “bestiality” than the rest of us, apparently including Kinsey.

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                    i’m not trying to debate bro here

                    And yet instead of answering the question you went off on a tangent about IVF.

                    I didn’t ask you your definition of sex act or say anything about doctors or animal husbandry. The question is VERY simple. Is it, or is it not, wrong to perform sex acts on a non-human animal?

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                  if we are going to equate animals and humans in your logic…

                  Having sex with an animal is as bad as incest, arguing there is no material reason for being against bestiality would also mean there is no reason against incest as a person who has sexual inclinations.

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                    if we are going to equate animals and humans in your logic…

                    What? When did I do that? When did I even state any logic at all? I asked someone to explain their logic.

                    arguing there is no material reason for being against bestiality

                    I didn’t argue anything. I asked someone else to explain the reason that they are against that thing, so that I can better understand their position.