It just works. No need to sift through dozens of config files and options and issue a hundred verbose commands just to get the system in a somewhat working state. All my laptop’s buttons work correctly out of the box. And it didn’t even come at the cost of sprawling complexity maintained by a patchwork of corpo patrons, underpaid code monkeys, and forum users. The system just fits together very well. The documentation is amazing too.

Easily my favorite Unix. If Linux was too complicated or barebones for you, give OpenBSD a try!

        • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
          1·
          8 months ago

          I think there are a few X11 window managers in the base distribution, including cwm, fvwm, and twm. I run XFCE though, which is a pkg_add xfce4 and an echo "exec startxfce4" > ~/.xsession from being set-up on the system.

          Xenocara, OpenBSD’s Xorg distribution (which comes with the base install) comes with a pretty display manager/login screen that runs on start-up by default, too!

          • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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            8 months ago

            I like the more straightforward less moving parts approach to starting a window manager honestly… ubuntu has so many gd moving parts (though it is easyish if you never want to go beyond the limits of the default setup and don’t care to understand anything under the hood).

            Also I lol’d at this from https://www.openbsd.org/security.html

            Security information moves very fast in cracker circles.

            Took me a few seconds

            As our resident pinephone enjoyer I do wonder how hard it would be to get a bsd running on that lol

            • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
              2·
              8 months ago

              I like the more straightforward less moving parts approach to starting a window manager honestly… ubuntu has so many gd moving parts (though it is easyish if you never want to go beyond the limits of the default setup and don’t care to understand anything under the hood).

              Yeahh, same. Is why I’m mostly done with Linux these days. It’s so hard to do anything outside the default. If you want to you have to be prepared to reckon with miles of config files and millions of lines of interdependent, overcomplicated, unportable code. For example, idk who ever thought GObject and Glib stuff was ever a good idea lol. It’s just so much cruft on top of cruft.

              Security information moves very fast in cracker circles.

              Hehehehe, I never read that line like that before lol.

              As our resident pinephone enjoyer I do wonder how hard it would be to get a bsd running on that lol

              I’m a a Pinephone enjoyer too! I’m even maining a Pinephone Pro these days (which is kinda miserable lol). Sadly, it’s not too easy. I think there are NetBSD/OpenBSD/maybe FreeBSD kernels floating around in various states of completeness but the many years of work and many lines of code making up Unix GUI stuff/display/input device stuff pretty much assume they’re running on a workstation/server, as I’m sure you know. Linux is at least a bit better in this way.

              I’m waiting for the year of the Plan 9 phone lol.

              • SwitchyWitchyandBitchy [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
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                8 months ago

                If I may ask, what OS do you have on your pinephone? I have one of the earlier runs of the non-pro which I’m thinking of ordering an upgraded motherboard for. It seemed like pmOS with phosh was the most usable when I tried it.

      • daisy@hexbear.netEnglish
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        8 months ago

        if hardware supports it.

        Which is often a rather big “if”.

        I do respect the work that goes into it. but saying “it just works” is a phrase that needs an asterisk.

        • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
          1·
          8 months ago

          I said that because I use a lot of strange hardware. OpenBSD will work great on pretty much any PC you can find. Maybe even better than Linux if it’s particularly old.

  • GaveUp [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    8 months ago

    Hard pass, the whole point of Unix systems is to brag about how difficult it was for you to setup

    • Sent from my Arch Linux
      • KillSlaveOwners [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        8 months ago

        The biggest out of the box difference on desktop is that openBSD has a working X system and session manager out of the box. It’s a very bare bones ones, but it is there. Freebsd is a fully functional CLI system post install. Setting up a GUI is simple, just not pre-installed.