Barack Obama: “For elevator music, AI is going to work fine. Music like Bob Dylan or Stevie Wonder, that’s different”::Barack Obama has weighed in on AI’s impact on music creation in a new interview, saying, “For elevator music, AI is going to work fine”.

  • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    I’m only describing the present. You’re the one saying you’ll always always always be able to tell. Feel free to test that bravado, internet stranger.

    The simple fact is, we don’t understand intelligence, and we keep being wrong about how much can be faked. Sometimes by underestimating ourselves - sometimes by overestimating ourselves. We do all this civilization nonsense with three pounds of electrified meat. Some parts, even important or popular parts, can be very formulaic. People have been generating so-so sheet music since an electric calculator was an investment. Now we’re talking about direct audio output of dead singers with new lyrics from dead writers. No kidding it’s flawed. But it’s already jawdropping when it works properly, and there is no reason to imagine this rush of progress will suddenly stop.

    Really, say that out loud: “this is the best technology will ever be.”

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      10 months ago

      lol, tough guy talk from internet strangers only impresses children on Xbox live.

      The only fact here is that you’re defending your opinion with nothing more than bluster and vagueness because of something you already admitted and keep admitting: you don’t know, so this equivocation between that and your determinism that something - anything - is certain to happen is not only disingenuous, it’s absurd.

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        10 months ago

        I’m not convinced you’d recognize yourself in a mirror.

        You’re aggressively dismissive of cocksure predictions… which you’re doing, and I’m not.

        You’re incensed by language making disagreement personal… which you used, and I only turned around.

        You think “I don’t know” is damning failure, but “you don’t either” is somehow contradictory.

        You are the one certain of what’s going to happen.

        That is somehow not the most absurd part of this conversation.

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          10 months ago

          Now you’re resorting to personal attacks and “I know you are but what am I?” along with more contradictions without a hint of irony.

          Do you often find this approach successful when the bloviating and juvenile attempts at intimidation don’t work?

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              10 months ago

              Yeah, you’re not going to find much success with that here, either.

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                10 months ago

                Success is impossible. You’re not listening to yourself and you don’t care what words mean.

                Meanwhile, keep an eye on this rapidly-changing technology, and try not to act surprised if your absolute certainty turns out to be misplaced.

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                  10 months ago

                  I listened to and was unconvinced by your rambling, insults, and tantrum.

                  Like I said, I’ll believe it when I see it.

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                    10 months ago

                    “For the new and special, humans will always be required. End of line.”

                    But I’m the one making predictions. By saying “I don’t know and you don’t either.”

                    “All of the bravado of all of the Internet strangers isn’t going to suddenly make me ‘believe.’”

                    When I never asked you to believe anything, besides human fallibility.

                    “Tough guy talk from internet strangers only impresses children on Xbox live.”

                    In response to an invitation to check your assumptions with a survey of examples… using the ‘bravado of internet strangers’ phrase you had just used.

                    “Do you often find this approach successful when the bloviating and juvenile attempts at intimidation don’t work?”

                    Which is outright fantasy, considering I cannot even guess what part of this was supposed to be “intimidation.”

                    And now you want to pretend I’m the one who threw a tantrum and started with insults.

                    What a sincere and worthwhile conversation this has been.

                    Meanwhile:

                    Yeah, you will believe it, when you see it. All I ask is that you remember you said it was literally impossible. But that’s a tall order when you can’t remember what you said two comments prior.