• GormlessGourd55@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      The case is still being worked through. You can’t just slap a guilty verdict on someone and say “well that’s sorted”. That’s not how these things work. They have to be evidenced, proven etc.

  • BIG_FICK_ENERGY@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I swear these things always go the same way.

    1. Allegations drop. Fans of accused club go on the defensive while fans of rival clubs gloat.
    2. People tire of hearing the story constantly, neutrals slowly start to drift from “punish the cheaters” to “I’m sick of hearing about this”
    3. Wait 2 years
    4. Slap on the wrist, cost of doing business punishment is handed down.
    5. Fans of accused club gloat, fans of rival clubs cry foul and corruption. Nothing fundamentally changes.
  • SnooOranges357@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    They could deduct City of 20-30 points and City might still qualify for a European non-CL competition. But they can sell it as a harsh punishment because it’s twice or thrice as high as that for Everton. I can totally see this happening.

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    10 months ago

    If there’s any justice in this world, City should be national league. Start again for breaking football for the past 15 years. Everything they’ve won has a black mark on it, an asterisk. I don’t want the extra titles, it’s meaningless now. I just want the truth to come out an the right punishment for it to stop others in the future

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    10 months ago

    Ultimately it’s harsh as they complied but no one would have any complaints if they showed consistency with then dealing with the bigger clubs.

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      10 months ago

      When neither of those clubs get major sanctions they’ll say they got the Everton decision wrong or they’ll explain why the charges against City and Chelsea that will end up sticking aren’t as serious as Everton’s breaches.

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    10 months ago

    Everton requested a consultant from the PL to oversee their transactions over the course of two years, who signed off on everything and later admitted not to have reviewed any of it in the first place. I don’t see how Everton could be accused of non compliance. This whole thing is fucking egregious.

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      10 months ago

      Wait, seriously? Surely Everton can take them to court over this? You can’t sign off on everything, then go oh you broke our rules even though we said it’s fine, and we didn’t actually do our job!?

      PL are fucking cunts. Cry about the super league, even though they’re the original superleague… Can’t be fucked to do shit about Refs or sportswashing, but Everton do something they have been told is actually okay, and absolutely fuck them.

    • No-Shoe5382@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      They’ve used Everton to make an example because they’re scared to do it to City or Chelsea.

      Can’t piss off the big 6 or they’ll start their own league.

      • Klopps_and_Schlobers@alien.topB
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        That’s not remotely true, City and Chelsea literally couldn’t leave the league, it’s legally impossible.

        As for pissing off the big six? Half of them would just at the chance to see both teams grab a massive punishment.

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            10 months ago

            Of you, to not understand that SL almost becoming a thing was partially because of your club and the leagues unwillingness to deal with you.

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            I am sure that our owners, and by extension United and Liverpool’s, would grab the opportunity to start a Super League. So if Chelsea and City are struck with punishment and they decide to break away, there could be a convincing argument for the others to leave too.

            However, having said that, Liverpool, United and Arsenal are the biggest draws in the PL. If City and Chelsea leave, it would be a manageable loss. But the other three would definitely mean a bigger drop. So if any of the three feel aggrieved and band together to put the biggest punishment on City and Chelsea, the league will follow.

            • NotADoctorSshh@alien.topB
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              City are making enough money, they don’t need the Super League. I don’t think that UAE views the club as an investment, more like an opportunity to cleanse their image.

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              None of these clubs can leave. The last time they tried, fans rioted and shut down the matches. The prime minister and the opposition were united on wanting to prevent a super league.

              That was a fuck around and fund out moment for the red tops. They pulled out in time before the government stepped in. Next time they’ll be made examples. They’ll be put under a government regulatory body and their power to self regulate will be gone.

              This isn’t America where there is a constitution. Parliament can force liquidations like they did with Roman. The American owners will behave or they’ll be sent packing.

              • ICritMyPants@alien.topB
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                The prime minister and the opposition were united on wanting to prevent a super league.

                Boris Johnson privately supported the Super League. He only came out and denounced it because the public (fans) came out completely against it. Johnson is a two faced cunt who does what is best for him. His “support” means nothing.

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                  Johnson is gone. Rishi Sunak is in desperate need of a political victory. And his likely successor is a Labour PM. The Super League isn’t happening. Every PM will be jostling to be the “Man who saved English football”. It’s over.

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        No, they haven’t. Your conspiracy theories aren’t clever or helpful.

        City’s is a far more complex case that will take longer to deal with, and any potential sanctions will be handed down by an independent commission, not the PL.

        Everton broke the rules, in a much more simple case, and have been punished for it. It has nothing to do with City or Chelsea.

      • Enjoys_A_Good_Shart@alien.topB
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        They are setting the precedent. They wouldn’t dock Everton 10 points for a single transaction if they weren’t planning on slamming City.

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          But at the same time they’ve put the point fine limit at 12 points, so it’s barely going to hurt City.

          Yes they might not win the league one year, but they’d still have CL

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            they’ve put the point fine limit at 12 points

            Seriously? That’s fucking scandalous.

            “One charge of breaching FFP, -10 points! Break as many as you like for just -2 more!”

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            But at the same time they’ve put the point fine limit at 12 points, so it’s barely going to hurt City.

            wait, where and when?

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        The rest of the big 6 would absolutely love City or Chelsea to get ruined. Probably the biggest reason for the likes of Liverpool and United being so supportive of the super league is to avoid getting left behind by clubs with bottomless pockets.

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        but why would they punish Everton then? The backlash is even bigger now, everyone is after City’s and Chelsea’s heads. If they didn’t do anything to Everton either no one would bat an eye, aside from the occasional “google man city 115” jokes

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    They need to do something about these Man city 115 charges against city more quickly. Like its gonna be half a decade before they’re all investigated and they’d have won the prem another 5 times in that period, and no way in a million years will a decade of league history be altered in punishment. They cheated so much they’re untouchable.

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      The more time goes on the more embarrassing a guilty verdict will be for the integrity of the league. Serie A having a couple of seasons effected by Calciopolli was bad enough, this would be magnitudes worse in terms of effected seasons. Easier for them to sweep it under the rug.

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      Some of the charges go back to 09-10 season so it’s actually been more than a decade for some of the offenses.

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    Everyone is cribbing based on decisions not yet even taken, but isn’t this what most fans wanted?

    Clubs actually have impactful consequences for breaking funding rules?

    It hasn’t happened to the biggest offenders yet, but IMHO it’s a good thing to see a firm precedent after decades of loosey-goosey shit like Fit-&-Proper person test or chump change fines given to infinite money glitch clubs.

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    They’ve got no choice because they know the independent regulator is on the way and they need to show that they’re complying with their own rules.

    And that independent regulator is why I don’t buy this “City will get away with it” rhetoric. Don’t mistake silence for incompetence in this case.

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      What independent regulator? The one Neville keeps pushing forward? I’ve heard nothing concrete about that and in my opinion that would be years away before the FA and all prem teams agree to what the regulator has control over.

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      And that independent regulator is why I don’t buy this “City will get away with it” rhetoric.

      Money talks, no matter the time and age. What’s more, who even is the independent regulator? Don’t the PGMOL have something similar?

      Most of the systems we’ve created are brilliant, economic, technological whatever. Its man that’s fallible.