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      There are a thousand kilometres of open ocean between Argentina and the Falklands.

      That’s not really accurate.

      If you look at the map on the above link, that distance is not straight East to West, its to the center of Argentina, SE to NW. I checked a couple of web sites, and they all measure a longer, diagonal distance, that gives a false impression of longer distances.

      If you use the Google Maps measuring tool, and you measure from the West coast of the islands to the East coast of Argentina, going directly East to West, you get this answer …

      Total distance: 338.20 mi (544.28 km)

      The Malvinas are allot closer than Hawaii is to the US.

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          and still massively outside any recognised concept of territorial waters

          The distance West to East is a little over 350 miles. That’s pretty damn close.

          planting a flag somewhere and then abandoning it for hundreds of years

          Are you even aware of the history? That link I’ve been plastering all over this topic, talks about this.

          Also, The Great Britain laid claim to another chuck of rock sticking out of the ocean further South, and all they have there is a plaque designating it as their property.

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              territorial waters is 12 nautical miles

              Most nations defend out to 200-300 miles.

              Regardless, “we’re the nearest continental landmass, but it’s still a really fucking long way” is not, and never has been, a valid excuse to fucking invade somewhere.

              Never said it was, just that it bolsters their claim of ownership.

              Having said that, would any nation wait indefinitely on a diplomatic solution for another nation to return land that they believe belongs to them?

              If the British refused to give Hong Kong back to China, what would the Chinese have done?

              If the Chinese had taken over Hawaii or the Catalina Islands off the coast of California, what would the US have done?

              As for the history, they were either discovered by the British or the Dutch, uninhabited. The only people to have ever lived there that weren’t part of a temporary garrison are the ancestors or the current population. It’s their home, and Argentina’s only interaction with the place is as a failing state engaging in a war of conquest.

              That’s not correct. If you read over the link that I’ve posted way too many times in this thread, you’ll see that. Also, their claim is based on the fact that Spain owned the islands, and they inherited them when they won their independence from Spain, so its not just about if Argentinian boots were on the ground there (though there WERE boots at one point as well).